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Silly Mexico. They couldn't hold on to what Spain had conquered, for more than about 20 years because their army is historically weak. Today, they can barely manage the territories they DO have, and still pine away for that which America took and was able to turn into a prosperous and bountiful country!
It's just like the Arabs looking jealously at the Israelis, who with a smaller population (but perhaps, much more intelligent) are able to produce 10X the science, tech, farming and innovation on a strip of land in the desert.
The funny thing is, FRANCE even conquered Mexico for a while. But Mexicans forget that the US actually played a role in getting Mexico out from under the rule of the French. (Though in retrospect, maybe we should have let the French rule for a while longer. Maybe they would have left it in better shape than it ended up under autonomous rule).
I don't understand the disconnect in the Mexican mind. If Mexico owned the SW US still, it would be just as under-developed, under-performing and poorly run as every other Mexican state. Mexicans would simply be crossing the border further north than they do today. Mexico fails to provide its people with an opportunity to succeed, so they have to go north. if only the US had seized MORE Mexican territory, eh? Then so much more would be prosperous. Baja California, for example, would make a lovely 51st state. Quintana Roo is already a colony of the US and Canada.
Speaking of which, imagine how great North America would be if we had a country like Canada on our southern border! Canada, with 1/4 the population of Mexico exports more than Mexico, has a bigger GDP, a bigger gross national income, and 9% poverty rate compared to Mexico's 51% poverty rate. 35 million people compared to 122 million! Embarrassing, really. The Spanish failed its colonies. Never left the people with working institutions. Thank god the US was Britain's colony!
Mexico's still a hot mess compared to the US. Otherwise MOST Mexicans illegally here would WANT to go home.
let us put it this way, in USA 80% of houses are made of Wood, That means that houses can take one month of working to be built and very few Hardwork hours, then try to compare them to Made with Bricks houses, and you tell me. and yet houses made of wood in USA seam to be acceptable and more expensive than houses made of Bricks in México. ¿Something is wrong, isn't it?
we Call it Exchange Rate caused by a Dollar overvaluation.
Silly Mexico. They couldn't hold on to what Spain had conquered, for more than about 20 years because their army is historically weak. Today, they can barely manage the territories they DO have, and still pine away for that which America took and was able to turn into a prosperous and bountiful country!
It's just like the Arabs looking jealously at the Israelis, who with a smaller population (but perhaps, much more intelligent) are able to produce 10X the science, tech, farming and innovation on a strip of land in the desert.
I guess you are getting it wrong, Israel recovered its territory after 2000 years.... We mexicans have been invaded just 150.
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The funny thing is, FRANCE even conquered Mexico for a while. But Mexicans forget that the US actually played a role in getting Mexico out from under the rule of the French. (Though in retrospect, maybe we should have let the French rule for a while longer. Maybe they would have left it in better shape than it ended up under autonomous rule).
Mexico was weak because of low population growth. thet changed after the first Socialist Revolution of History in 1910, since then Mexco has grown and its population now is larger than France, England Germany and Japan. We are walking.
when Mexico Was invaded by France We were 8 million France was 35...
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I don't understand the disconnect in the Mexican mind. If Mexico owned the SW US still, it would be just as under-developed,
we dont know it happens tha the North of Mexico which is being illegitimatly ocupaied by racist invaders, is the Richest area of Mexico and the one with the largest proportion of Mexicans in the territory controlled by the invaders which belongs to Mexico.
Should I say that The Richest Territories of California and Texas are habitated by 40% mexicans?
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under-performing and poorly run as every other Mexican state. Mexicans would simply be crossing the border further north than they do today. Mexico fails to provide its people with an opportunity to succeed, so they have to go north. if only the US had seized MORE Mexican territory, eh? Then so much more would be prosperous.
huoses made of Cheap materials are not prosperous, but fake prosperity, the day the world realizes it that day the world will stop accepting US dollars, which are printed out of thin air every time a mortgage is made, for raw materials.
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Baja California, for example, would make a lovely 51st state. Quintana Roo is already a colony of the US and Canada.
I think that you don't raelize that Those states are owned by a Vast majority of Mexicans. but any way, keep being delusional the day Cancun is inhabitated by 50% foreigners as Los Angeles is by Mexicans come and tell me. by the way in the 60s Acapulco was said to be an "'Murican" colony.... Let me laugh out laud now.
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Speaking of which, imagine how great North America would be if we had a country like Canada on our southern border! Canada, with 1/4 the population of Mexico exports more than Mexico, has a bigger GDP, a bigger gross national income, and 9% poverty rate compared to Mexico's 51% poverty rate. 35 million people compared to 122 million! Embarrassing, really. The Spanish failed its colonies. Never left the people with working institutions. Thank god the US was Britain's colony!
We inMéxico need More people, far more, As much as 300 millions and we can get them.
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German is the #1 ancestry of the American citizens. Doesn't make us an extension of Germany.
BTW: You do know that after about 2-3 generations, Americans tend to lose the identity of their ancestors. Happens every time. Already 40% of Latinos in the US don't speak Spanish at home. And a HUGE portion of those that CLAIM to Speak Spanish, speak an awful Spanglish hybrid nonsense.
As Latinos marry non-Latinos at very high rates, the loss of language and identification with the "old country" disappears. There are less social boundaries these days to inter-national and inter-ethnic marriage.
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I guess you are getting it wrong, Israel recovered its territory after 2000 years.... We mexicans have been invaded just 150.
Only problem is: It really WASN'T "Mexican" territory. It belonged to the Spanish Empire. Before that, it belonged to the Indians. Of which Mexicans are not affiliated. You will remember that the Apache fought fiercely against the Mexican invaders.
Mexico had the territory for TWENTY years. Twenty. Do you know that less than 10% of people in the US with Mexican heritage can trace it back to the original (SPANIARD, basically) settlers and colonists?
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Originally Posted by Alonso_Castillo
Mexico was weak because of low population growth. thet changed after the first Socialist Revolution of History in 1910, since then Mexco has grown and its population now is larger than France, England Germany and Japan. We are walking.
when Mexico Was invaded by France We were 8 million France was 35...
Mexico is and was weak because it lacks good social, political and legal institutions that are necessary for a functioning first world country.
Maybe instead of bragging about the strength of your dwellings, you should workon strengthening your political institutions.
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we dont know it happens tha the North of Mexico which is being illegitimatly ocupaied by racist invaders, is the Richest area of Mexico and the one with the largest proportion of Mexicans in the territory controlled by the invaders which belongs to Mexico.
Should I say that The Richest Territories of California and Texas are habitated by 40% mexicans?
Because Mexicans have never figured out how to run a country, Texas and California would look EXACTLY like Baja California, Nueva Leon, etc.
And btw, RACIST invaders? Look in the mirror, hombre. Mexico is racist to the core. Any given weekend in DF you will find the indigenous, protesting for rights. You will find the white Spaniard class dining at American restaurants and living in Polanco while mestizos and Indios live in absolute squalor. Your government literally encourages the brownest and poorest of your citizens to travel and migrate to the United States. Again because:
a) your country is racist as all hell;
b) your country cannot provide for its own citizens
The way Mexico treats Guatemalans and other Central Americans (not to mention Afro-Mexicans) is also racist.
Indeed, if one were to judge what Mexicans looked like by their media, one would also conclude that Mexico is a country of green eyed, light brown haired and blonde haired people!
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Originally Posted by Alonso_Castillo
huoses made of Cheap materials are not prosperous, but fake prosperity, the day the world realizes it that day the world will stop accepting US dollars, which are printed out of thin air every time a mortgage is made, for raw materials.
Are you in the construction industry or something? You're oddly obsessed with building practices that aren't even universal across the United States.
Do you know, for example, that where I live all new houses and dwellings are subject to basically THE toughest building and construction standards in the world? The windows in my home can withstand 150mph + winds, and will not shatter.
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Originally Posted by Alonso_Castillo
I think that you don't raelize that Those states are owned by a Vast majority of Mexicans. but any way, keep being delusional the day Cancun is inhabitated by 50% foreigners as Los Angeles is by Mexicans come and tell me. by the way in the 60s Acapulco was said to be an "'Murican" colony.... Let me laugh out laud now.
Lol, the vast majority of American land and wealth is owned by the top 5% of the country ---- which I hate to inform you does NOT include your average Mexican illegal living in a barrio in Los Angeles. There are people in the Hollywood Hills who have more money and wealth than 100000 Mexicans in East LA combined.
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Originally Posted by Alonso_Castillo
We inMéxico need More people, far more, As much as 300 millions and we can get them.
Yeah, well, too bad the birthrate in Mexico is falling right in line with the rest of the developed world, eh? Mexico is at replacement level in births (while also having an infant mortality rate double that of the USA). Took you long enough to catch up. But that's Mexico, right? Always the "slow kid" on the continent!
In fact, birthrates are falling across Latin America. This is good for the planet, and good for Latin America, which needs LESS population growth until it can actually, you know, become a developed and modern place.
This is a sustained trend for all populations outside of Africa and the Middle Eas.
Unfortunately, Mexico isn't an immigration destination for peoples from all across the world like the US and Canada. Maybe those illiterate laborers from El Salvador will strengthen your economy? We can ask Angela Merkel to send some refugees to Mexico.
German is the #1 ancestry of the American citizens. Doesn't make us an extension of Germany.
BTW: You do know that after about 2-3 generations, Americans tend to lose the identity of their ancestors. Happens every time. Already 40% of Latinos in the US don't speak Spanish at home. And a HUGE portion of those that CLAIM to Speak Spanish, speak an awful Spanglish hybrid nonsense.
As Latinos marry non-Latinos at very high rates, the loss of language and identification with the "old country" disappears. There are less social boundaries these days to inter-national and inter-ethnic marriage.
Only problem is: It really WASN'T "Mexican" territory. It belonged to the Spanish Empire. Before that, it belonged to the Indians. Of which Mexicans are not affiliated. You will remember that the Apache fought fiercely against the Mexican invaders.
Mexico had the territory for TWENTY years. Twenty. Do you know that less than 10% of people in the US with Mexican heritage can trace it back to the original (SPANIARD, basically) settlers and colonists?
Mexico is and was weak because it lacks good social, political and legal institutions that are necessary for a functioning first world country.
Maybe instead of bragging about the strength of your dwellings, you should workon strengthening your political institutions.
Because Mexicans have never figured out how to run a country, Texas and California would look EXACTLY like Baja California, Nueva Leon, etc.
And btw, RACIST invaders? Look in the mirror, hombre. Mexico is racist to the core. Any given weekend in DF you will find the indigenous, protesting for rights. You will find the white Spaniard class dining at American restaurants and living in Polanco while mestizos and Indios live in absolute squalor. Your government literally encourages the brownest and poorest of your citizens to travel and migrate to the United States. Again because:
a) your country is racist as all hell;
b) your country cannot provide for its own citizens
The way Mexico treats Guatemalans and other Central Americans (not to mention Afro-Mexicans) is also racist.
Indeed, if one were to judge what Mexicans looked like by their media, one would also conclude that Mexico is a country of green eyed, light brown haired and blonde haired people!
Are you in the construction industry or something? You're oddly obsessed with building practices that aren't even universal across the United States.
Do you know, for example, that where I live all new houses and dwellings are subject to basically THE toughest building and construction standards in the world? The windows in my home can withstand 150mph + winds, and will not shatter.
Lol, the vast majority of American land and wealth is owned by the top 5% of the country ---- which I hate to inform you does NOT include your average Mexican illegal living in a barrio in Los Angeles. There are people in the Hollywood Hills who have more money and wealth than 100000 Mexicans in East LA combined.
Yeah, well, too bad the birthrate in Mexico is falling right in line with the rest of the developed world, eh? Mexico is at replacement level in births (while also having an infant mortality rate double that of the USA). Took you long enough to catch up. But that's Mexico, right? Always the "slow kid" on the continent!
In fact, birthrates are falling across Latin America. This is good for the planet, and good for Latin America, which needs LESS population growth until it can actually, you know, become a developed and modern place.
This is a sustained trend for all populations outside of Africa and the Middle East.
Unfortunately, Mexico isn't an immigration destination for peoples from all across the world like the US and Canada. Maybe those illiterate laborers from El Salvador will strengthen your economy? We can ask Angela Merkel to send some refugees to Mexico.
Excellent responses to the Reconquista types. The past is the past so why are they whining about something that happened when they weren't even alive back then anyway? I guess when they can't make something of themselves or their country today they claim it was because of their version of the past. Taking over by an "illegal" invasion and babies is the coward's way. Ridiculous!
German is the #1 ancestry of the American citizens. Doesn't make us an extension of Germany.
BTW: You do know that after about 2-3 generations, Americans tend to lose the identity of their ancestors. Happens every time. Already 40% of Latinos in the US don't speak Spanish at home. And a HUGE portion of those that CLAIM to Speak Spanish, speak an awful Spanglish hybrid nonsense.
As Latinos marry non-Latinos at very high rates, the loss of language and identification with the "old country" disappears. There are less social boundaries these days to inter-national and inter-ethnic marriage.
Only problem is: It really WASN'T "Mexican" territory. It belonged to the Spanish Empire. Before that, it belonged to the Indians. Of which Mexicans are not affiliated. You will remember that the Apache fought fiercely against the Mexican invaders.
Mexico had the territory for TWENTY years. Twenty. Do you know that less than 10% of people in the US with Mexican heritage can trace it back to the original (SPANIARD, basically) settlers and colonists?
Mexico is and was weak because it lacks good social, political and legal institutions that are necessary for a functioning first world country.
Maybe instead of bragging about the strength of your dwellings, you should workon strengthening your political institutions.
Because Mexicans have never figured out how to run a country, Texas and California would look EXACTLY like Baja California, Nueva Leon, etc.
And btw, RACIST invaders? Look in the mirror, hombre. Mexico is racist to the core. Any given weekend in DF you will find the indigenous, protesting for rights. You will find the white Spaniard class dining at American restaurants and living in Polanco while mestizos and Indios live in absolute squalor. Your government literally encourages the brownest and poorest of your citizens to travel and migrate to the United States. Again because:
a) your country is racist as all hell;
b) your country cannot provide for its own citizens
The way Mexico treats Guatemalans and other Central Americans (not to mention Afro-Mexicans) is also racist.
Indeed, if one were to judge what Mexicans looked like by their media, one would also conclude that Mexico is a country of green eyed, light brown haired and blonde haired people!
Are you in the construction industry or something? You're oddly obsessed with building practices that aren't even universal across the United States.
Do you know, for example, that where I live all new houses and dwellings are subject to basically THE toughest building and construction standards in the world? The windows in my home can withstand 150mph + winds, and will not shatter.
Lol, the vast majority of American land and wealth is owned by the top 5% of the country ---- which I hate to inform you does NOT include your average Mexican illegal living in a barrio in Los Angeles. There are people in the Hollywood Hills who have more money and wealth than 100000 Mexicans in East LA combined.
Yeah, well, too bad the birthrate in Mexico is falling right in line with the rest of the developed world, eh? Mexico is at replacement level in births (while also having an infant mortality rate double that of the USA). Took you long enough to catch up. But that's Mexico, right? Always the "slow kid" on the continent!
In fact, birthrates are falling across Latin America. This is good for the planet, and good for Latin America, which needs LESS population growth until it can actually, you know, become a developed and modern place.
This is a sustained trend for all populations outside of Africa and the Middle Eas.
Unfortunately, Mexico isn't an immigration destination for peoples from all across the world like the US and Canada. Maybe those illiterate laborers from El Salvador will strengthen your economy? We can ask Angela Merkel to send some refugees to Mexico.
Agreed.
Too; it's NOT "race" why LatAm is such a mess since their people are as "smart" as any other "race", it's "culture".
During his campaign for president, Donald Trump repeatedly called for rewriting the U.S.-Mexico relationship. He peppered Mexicans with nasty stereotypes (“criminals,” “rapists,” and “bad hombres”), advocated ripping up the North American Free Trade Agreement, and promised to build a “big beautiful wall” on the border — on Mexico’s dime.
Now some prominent Mexicans are raising their own quibbles about the border. They are making the case that Mexico should return to its 1848 boundaries, before the United States snatched large chunks of their territory, including most of California, Utah, Nevada, New Mexico, and Arizona, during the Mexican-American war.
Tho I'm sorry we didn't take ALL of Mexico in 1848.
I still don't understand why we didn't do so. It would have saved us a tremendous amount of trouble in the long run. Not annexing all of Mexico was one of the biggest mistakes we made in the 1800s, we should have annexed much of the Caribbean as well (the "Knights of the Golden Circle" scheme). You know, the US almost annexed the Dominican Republic in 1869 ... the treaty failed in the US Senate by a single vote.
We could have avoided a whole lot of trouble with a more expansionist policy in the mid 1800s. We got into the business far too late (1898).
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