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Old 04-12-2017, 02:00 PM
 
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Came to the conclusion that it doesn't matter what Trump does. He could order the EPA to dump radioactive waste into everyone's backyard, and his hardcore supporters will cheer it on if it pissed liberals off, even if their own backyard is contaminated
they will stop supporting them, but it takes time.


before a person changes their mind they first need a new narrative that alleviates them of responsibility for making a poor choice.

it is one of those soft science things, but the consensus seems to be that the best way for people to get there is just to help them find it.

We can see how the Right's opinion on Healthcare has changed in just a few years, as one by one people learn that there is no such thing as FREE MARKET healthcare insurance anywhere in the industrialized world. And when they learn that the service levels and life saving ability is about the same but just less than half the cost and you get cover from conception to burial they start to see the sense.

But it takes time , facts and allowing people to make up their own mind about it.

To be honest it took me longer than many to accept global warming. Not stupid long , but long enough.

 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:02 PM
 
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Still winning.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...38509355933697


This speaks for itself.
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:02 PM
 
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I look forward to day when all politicians are judged using the exact same standards.

IMO, most think their team can do no wrong and the other team can do nothing right.
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:04 PM
 
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Obama had nothing to do with whatever imaginary social engineering you are thinking of. There's Obama, and then there's Michael Savage's hyperbole.
Not so Imaginary when Obama and the Democratic Congress force ACA on us and was heading the US to Globalism which would of made us a third world country.


The Left is in live with socialism and want to force everyone else on this crazy ideal. We have seen this for 8 years!
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:10 PM
 
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Not so Imaginary when Obama and the Democratic Congress force ACA on us and was heading the US to Globalism which would of made us a third world country.


The Left is in live with socialism and want to force everyone else on this crazy ideal. We have seen this for 8 years!
There is NO SOCIALISM in the US. Socialism died in 1992 only Cuba is left that fits the classic socialist model! The US doesn't even come close, not by miles and miles! The ACA is no excuse at all to get all poisonous at everyone who isn't a right-winger. I mean, God forbid we let poor rural whites get hosed by insurance companies, or dumped by them altogether
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:12 PM
 
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I've noticed this trend too. Just look at the thread about Spicer's Hitler comments. There's plenty who are still siding with Spicer. Just pure insanity, the hatred is real. Hope these folks have a heart attack early and die, it'll save the country.
Wow you wished supporters to have a heart attack and to just die while claiming how insane and hate filled they are?!?! Do you not see the hypocrisy in your statement? Pretty ugly to me.

And for the record we conservatives dealt with unquestioning dying Obama love for 8 years. So buck up buttercup!
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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The Left has sold out America for the Ideal of Social re-engineering which Obama was infamous for. Libs say Trump is destroying the world whole Supporters say Trump is opening the doors of prosperity.


The Unemployment numbers have already reflected that so far.


I got to Libs have no clue on the real world and their action during Obama and even today furthers the great divide.

But you are totally missing the point. If the unemployment numbers are for real and Trump is to be given credit that's great. But what about the subject of the thread? Have you ever once made a critical post about the President? Ever? If not, which I suspect is true, that means he is perfect and never made a mistake in his life or you, as the OP claims, are incapable of ever criticizing him.


I'm going with the second one. And THAT, my friend, is one of the big reasons for the divide in this country and it has zero to do with the last President.
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:14 PM
 
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Wow you wished supporters to have a heart attack and to just die while claiming how insane and hate filled they are?!?! Do you not see the hypocrisy in your statement? Pretty ugly to me.

And for the record we conservatives dealt with unquestioning dying Obama love for 8 years. So buck up buttercup!
That was dumb of him to say that. Yes definitely.

But you didn't see liberals deny reality and cry fake news when they were slapped with facts on their face. We had facts to back up your counter claims. You're all, "no fake news!" Astounding....
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Wow you wished supporters to have a heart attack and to just die while claiming how insane and hate filled they are?!?! Do you not see the hypocrisy in your statement? Pretty ugly to me.

And for the record we conservatives dealt with unquestioning dying Obama love for 8 years. So buck up buttercup!
Yeah I said it brutally cause that's the truth. If people can't see it, I can't help you. Plenty of historians might be able to explain it to you.

Statistics easily show, Americans are stupid. The least educated out of all the industrialized nations (proven by the science-denial BS that keeps popping up), no effort to even get educated nor even fund education. Now we're even talking about deliberately cutting scientific research and pell grants, etc..? I mean how much more stupid can we get. As much as I like to be optimistic, when faced with reality that's just how society is.

I don't reason with stupidity. I tell it like it is.
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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And the same could be said of the Trump haters. It doesn't matter what he does, good, bad or otherwise and they'd automatically bash him.
It IS the Trump haters making these statements, having the audacity to believe Trump gassed the Syrians to make himself look good. These are the same zealots that transparently defended every crap thing Obama did... like the Iran Deal.

Trump could walk and water and bring world peace and they'd still find fault.

They are the ones losing all relevance for their insane beliefs. Posting in forums, watching nutty MSM, and holding protests with a few hundred other basement dwellers and white privilege snowflakes is all they have left. I say let them continue to make fools of themselves as whatever influence they have left slips into history.

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Yeah I said it brutally cause that's the truth. If people can't see it, I can't help you. Plenty of historians might be able to explain it to you.

Statistics easily show, Americans are stupid. The least educated out of all the industrialized nations (proven by the science-denial BS that keeps popping up), no effort to even get educated nor even fund education. Now we're even talking about deliberately cutting scientific research and pell grants, etc..? I mean how much more stupid can we get. As much as I like to be optimistic, when faced with reality that's just how society is.

I don't reason with stupidity. I tell it like it is.
And add arrogance to that list. Another key factor why progs are flailing in the wind.

Let me fix one thing for you: Progressive Americans are stupid. They're so full of themselves as they treated millions of Americans as deplorable and irredeemable. Guess what, those millions proved you progs to be the truly deplorable class of self-righteous idiots.


Rinse, Repeat


The definition of insanity applies

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