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Originally Posted by Redd Jedd
"Libs" will not be the only ones loosing their healthcare. In fact, a lot of Red Staters will be hurt too. But as long as they "stick it to the libs", why should they care if they hurt their own?
I think both sides are just as bad. They got theirs, why would they care about anyone else?
Yep.Just what I was thinking. I can only imagine what kind of screwed up bill we will be presented with if they can get BOTH the Tuesday Group AND the Freedom caucus on board.
I did some more digging and I found out that the Freedom Caucus got a concession allowing states to opt out of requiring insurance plans to cover essential health services and pre-existing conditions. In short, people that live in states where GOP controlled legislatures have large numbers of Tea Party types are basically screwed if they plan on getting pregnant or if they have (or should develop) a chronic condition. The moderates (Tuesday Group) will get some more funding for high risk pools to try and cover their rear ends ... in reality these pools will not be able to cover everyone that needs it, or provide decent coverage either with the amount of money budgeted. In short, we're going back to the way it was before the ACA.
Translation: Move out of Texas, Alabama, Oklahoma, etc if you want a healthcare plan that actually includes anything beyond catastrophic coverage.
I did some more digging and I found out that the Freedom Caucus got a concession allowing states to opt out of requiring insurance plans to cover essential health services and pre-existing conditions. In short, people that live in states where GOP controlled legislatures have large numbers of Tea Party types are basically screwed if they plan on getting pregnant or if they have (or should develop) a chronic condition. The moderates (Tuesday Group) will get some more funding for high risk pools to try and cover their rear ends ... in reality these pools will not be able to cover everyone that needs it, or provide decent coverage either with the amount of money budgeted. In short, we're going back to the way it was before the ACA.
Translation: Move out of Texas, Alabama, Oklahoma, etc if you want a healthcare plan that actually includes anything beyond catastrophic coverage.
What about the expanded Medicaid? I know the Freedom Caucus wanted that to be repealed as well. Is that included in the concessions you found? That could be a sticking point for the reps in the red states that expanded it. Millions more would be out in the cold if they repeal that, and that's not going to fly in those states.
My spouse and I are fully shielded from anything that can be thrown at us at this point. I say bring it on, conservatives LOL. Obamacare can't be repealed fast enough!
What about the expanded Medicaid? I know the Freedom Caucus wanted that to be repealed as well. Is that included in the concessions you found? That could be a sticking point for the reps in the red states that expanded it. Millions more would be out in the cold if they repeal that, and that's not going to fly in those states.
Meanwhile, the new GOP plan would keep in place the old plan’s phase-out of the Medicaid expansion, which would itself result in 14 million fewer people on Medicaid
The problem is the people who now complain about healthcare costs were those that quietly grumbled each year insurance rates went up in the private insurance market pre-ACA. The private market is not the answer to those who need coverage due to pre-existing conditions or those dropped due to the cost of conditions.
It if your pre-existing condition is self-inflicted due to lifestyle choices.
They did regardless. Cancer was one. Most cancer can't be attributed to "lifestyle choices." Except for lung (smoking) or oral (chew).
Is working in a coal mine and getting lung cancer a lifestyle choice? You could find many occupations, let alone genetics like breast cancer, that carrying with them an increased risk of developing pre-existing conditions.
Is working in a coal mine and getting lung cancer a lifestyle choice? You could find many occupations, let alone genetics like breast cancer, that carrying with them an increased risk of developing pre-existing conditions.
I have a heart condition. The wife is a diabetic. We are both pushing 60. I have BCBS for 300 a month.
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