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Here's another example of where Jordan Peterson nailed it. He's said that this type of stuff often stems from the relativist point of view, or postmodernist philosophy - that there's no truth, just everyone's individual perspective...which is ridiculous, but a lot of people buy into it.
A little bit more conspiratorial view I've heard on this is that postmodernism has been propagated specifically to remove certainty from people's minds, and then they're more susceptible to new ideas being planted in them (*cough*education). It seems like there's definitely some truth to that.
If there's no objective truth, how would you know?
Because perception and bias can be seen in everything from news to history lessons to science and medicine. Even religion. How one perceives an event or occurrence can be different from how another person perceives it. How one reads another's written word is affected by bias and perception.
A really basic example:
Neither person is inherently wrong with what they are describing. But because they are seeing things from a different angle, the result is different. That's what it means when people reject the idea of a fully objective "truth".
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Here's another example of where Jordan Peterson nailed it. He's said that this type of stuff often stems from the relativist point of view, or postmodernist philosophy - that there's no truth, just everyone's individual perspective...which is ridiculous, but a lot of people buy into it.
A little bit more conspiratorial view I've heard on this is that postmodernism has been propagated specifically to remove certainty from people's minds, and then they're more susceptible to new ideas being planted in them (*cough*education). It seems like there's definitely some truth to that.
I daresay this very forum is a great example of how different perceptions read the same situation differently. It's not there is no such thing as truth. Subjective truths exist. Objective truths exist. However, subjective truths exist at a much higher frequency than objective ones because we naturally apply our own biases, perceptions, and filters to everything we read and see.
I daresay this very forum is a great example of how different perceptions read the same situation differently. It's not there is no such thing as truth. Subjective truths exist. Objective truths exist. However, subjective truths exist at a much higher frequency than objective ones because we naturally apply our own biases, perceptions, and filters to everything we read and see.
Two people can read a situation differently, but that doesn't mean they're both correct or that there is no correct answer. I'm glad you agree that objective truths exist, but there are many (maybe yourself, but I'm not sure) who try to validate people's subjective "truths" when they are objectively wrong (i.e. the people who believe their identity is based on subjective whim rather than any objective reality).
While there is some truth that once you come to believe all men are born with natural rights then, yes, racism is neccesary to justify chattel slavery and other gross violations of natural rights.
What these students do not get is before the Enlightenment nothing was needed to justify slavery and that the end of slavery, racism, sexism, etc. will be the end result of the Enlightenment.
To paraphrase Milton Friedman; the societies that have raised man above slavery and subsistence living are the societies that have relatively free markets and free trade, capitalism.
Let's face it facts "truth" kinda puts socialism in a bad light.
Free speech has always been a "tool for hegemonic institutions." The lesson these students need to learn is how to use it for their own organizations/institutions.
Whenever I read stuff like this from black students it makes me want to not send my black kids to a mainstream college and to push them toward an HBCU where they will get a better education regarding the history of black America as it relates to what is considered "the problem of race."
It correlates with the idea that "history is written by the victor" and how one's own biases affect how a story is told. Hence the idea of arguing against an "objective truth" in matters of politics. For instance, if you compare how America teaches the Revolutionary War against how it is taught in England, there are quite a number of differences. Even in America, there is still arguments from different sides on what the Civil War was "really" about.
And while their wording goes a bit above the reading level of the average American, they're not wrong.
Then who the f--k are they trying to reach?
When people talk like this, they are usually saying nothing.
I see this too. We have become so sensitive about race, thanks to the Democrats ,we cannot state the truth as we see it so plainly. We are labeled racist on every statement no matter how truthful it is. The left is now attacking free speech because they do not want to hear an opposing voice of reason. This is liberal intolerance which they are so guilty .
Which, without all the big, fancy words? tl;dr - Freedom of speech is a double-edged sword.
The second one:
tl;dr - Saying that the school is founded on "the discovery of truth" implies that there is only one "real" objective truth. The rest of the paragraph documents the historic use of how touting a subjective fact as an objective truth has been used to justify and propagate discrimination.
While I disagree with students getting to decide who is and isn't allowed a voice, I also disagree with administrators admonishing legal protests. If a protest blocks access to a building, but is still within legal limits, then it's legal and should be protected. I very much agreed with their statement that "Protest that doesn’t disrupt the status quo is benign and doesn’t function to overthrow systems of oppression, which is the ultimate goal."
"Libsplaining". It's like mansplaining but somehow even more condescending.
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There's the next generation of Democrats.
Yes, OP....because the opinions of some extremely liberal college students who have no experience in the real world represent the future of the entire Democratic party.
Some of you folks on here will just say anything.
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