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I am all for very controlled medicinal marijuana but it is completely out of control in Colorado.
There are some states that have it legalized at the state level for limited medical conditions which I don't see an issue with.
In Colorado though it is basically a mecca for it. Travelers can't stay in some hotels, the light-rail ridership seems to be weak because of the contact high many people don't want and overall it has caused Colorado to have massive rates of far more serious drug use then other states.
Some of the light rails, hotels and motels reek of marijuana. I have been in Southern California, Arizona, Nevada and Colorado recently.
Only Las Vegas can compare to Denver when it comes to smelling it in public.
Colorado Springs and Denver also have a massive heroin epidemic due to the states ultra-liberal turn the other way policies towards illicit drugs
Whats out of control is that people like Sessions are the root cause of this. This is what happens when you force a business to operate all cash. Trying to tie it to marijuana is nonsense. You should be ashamed.
Some counties don't allow marijuana users to have a gun permit. That doesn't help. Of course I have never understood the need for a permit when one has a right to self defense.
I am all for very controlled medicinal marijuana but it is completely out of control in Colorado.
There are some states that have it legalized at the state level for limited medical conditions which I don't see an issue with.
In Colorado though it is basically a mecca for it. Travelers can't stay in some hotels, the light-rail ridership seems to be weak because of the contact high many people don't want and overall it has caused Colorado to have massive rates of far more serious drug use then other states.
Some of the light rails, hotels and motels reek of marijuana. I have been in Southern California, Arizona, Nevada and Colorado recently.
Only Las Vegas can compare to Denver when it comes to smelling it in public.
Colorado Springs and Denver also have a massive heroin epidemic due to the states ultra-liberal turn the other way policies towards illicit drugs
No matter how "legal" marijuana may become, there will always be large-scale crime associated with it. There will be criminals who will exploit the legality of customers possessing small amounts of it and will grow or sell it illegally, at a lower price, than in the authorized shops. Some of those shops will go crooked and buy part of their supply from cheaper bootleg sources. It will become a big nightmare for law enforcement, as keeping track of what's legal and what isn't, will be impossible.
Never mind how unhealthy smoking it is and how many traffic accidents will be caused by drivers who are high on it. Productivity and safety on the job will suffer. Look for many more acts of violence, stemming from turf-wars among the bootleggers. The criminal culture that has built up around it, can't be made to simply go away, by legalization. The drug cartels across borders will be working overtime, to ensure that there will always be as much crime as possible involved with it. These states that have allowed legalization (including my own), have just opened some big cans of worms.
No matter how "legal" marijuana may become, there will always be large-scale crime associated with it. There will be criminals who will exploit the legality of customers possessing small amounts of it and will grow or sell it illegally, at a lower price, than in the authorized shops. Some of those shops will go crooked and buy part of their supply from cheaper bootleg sources. It will become a big nightmare for law enforcement, as keeping track of what's legal and what isn't, will be impossible.
Never mind how unhealthy smoking it is and how many traffic accidents will be caused by drivers who are high on it. Productivity and safety on the job will suffer. Look for many more acts of violence, stemming from turf-wars among the bootleggers. The criminal culture that has built up around it, can't be made to simply go away, by legalization. The drug cartels across borders will be working overtime, to ensure that there will always be as much crime as possible involved with it. These states that have allowed legalization (including my own), have just opened some big cans of worms.
And your proof of this is:,,Oh that's right, you don't need proof as long as you have your biased opinion.
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No, it's not backed up by anything, literally. Mine is backed by simple logic. An illegal hallucinogen was found in the blood of two people who ate other people's faces off. But you would have us believe that it's all a coincidence and the real culprit is some other invisible substance.
im 100% sure a toxicologist knows more than you, so your logic is based on a lack of knowledge
No matter how "legal" marijuana may become, there will always be large-scale crime associated with it. There will be criminals who will exploit the legality of customers possessing small amounts of it and will grow or sell it illegally, at a lower price, than in the authorized shops. Some of those shops will go crooked and buy part of their supply from cheaper bootleg sources. It will become a big nightmare for law enforcement, as keeping track of what's legal and what isn't, will be impossible.
Never mind how unhealthy smoking it is and how many traffic accidents will be caused by drivers who are high on it. Productivity and safety on the job will suffer. Look for many more acts of violence, stemming from turf-wars among the bootleggers. The criminal culture that has built up around it, can't be made to simply go away, by legalization. The drug cartels across borders will be working overtime, to ensure that there will always be as much crime as possible involved with it. These states that have allowed legalization (including my own), have just opened some big cans of worms.
Steve, marijuana has been a multi-billion dollar industry for almost 5 decades. Marijuana has been in widespread use that entire time, with millions of us using it daily for that entire time. About 25 million people per month use cannabis in some form.
If your concerns were going to happen, they would have happened long ago.
Legalization isn't bringing in as many new users as you might think. But what it is doing is taking the millions of current users and removing them from harm's way. It is called harm reduction, and it works. No longer are they under the threat of losing their lives, livelihoods, children, houses, or cars.
It will also help keep it out of our schools. Prohibition means that not only is it more available to kids (dealers on street corners don't ask for ID's) but also it glamorizes it. You can buy pot in any school in America as I type this, yet legal alcohol isn't in our schools. It is harder for kids to get and since its legal it holds no glamour.
Basically, your entire post is full of crap. It has been legal here in Colorado for almost 5 years, and we are doing just fine. Actually, better than fine.
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Oh look - the OP is from Arizona, attempting to speak on what things are like in Colorado. I actually live in Colorado. I work in the middle of downtown. I have a much better idea of what's going on here than you do.
So let's discuss some facts:
- Denver's economy is BOOMING. There are cranes everywhere, rent is at an all-time high. Infrastructure and housing can't keep up with the growth of the Denver metro area
- Denver's housing market is breaking it's own record every month. Denver home value has never been higher in the history of the city
- 17,000FULL-TIME jobs have been created by the legal marijuana industry since 2014
- $380,000,000 in tax revenue was generated by the State of Colorado from legal pot tax
- Of that nearly 400 million in taxes, 45 MILLION DOLLARS went directly to Colorado Public Schools last year.
- Denver tourism IS AT AN ALL-TIME HIGH (get it? high? LOL)
DO NOT LET THE OP MISLEAD YOU WITH CRIME STATISTICS. First of all, 58 homicides in one year isn't that bad for a big city. hell, Chicago probably had 58 murders in a month.
The OP compares the homicide rates from 2010 to 2016. But legal pot began in 2014. The reason murders have gone up some in Denver since 2010 is because, as the money and middle-class are moving into the city, the poor people are being pushed out of certain areas. More and more poor people are being pushed out of neighborhoods that are being gentrified and being forced to move to East Denver/Aurora. Thus, more and more gangs and gang members are living in closer proximity than they used to, thus more murders. The local news did a story a few months ago about the gang violence rising on the east side of the city due to poor blacks and hispanic gangs being forced to live in close proximity due to the changing demographics of Denver. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MARIJUANA.
lovecrowds (OP), you got any more false propaganda about the negative impact of legal marijuana that I can shoot holes through???
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It has been legal here in Colorado for almost 5 years, and we are doing just fine. Actually, better than fine.
The reason murders have gone up some in Denver since 2010 is because, as the money and middle-class are moving into the city, the poor people are being pushed out of certain areas. More and more poor people are being pushed out of neighborhoods that are being gentrified and being forced to move to East Denver/Aurora. Thus, more and more gangs and gang members are living in closer proximity than they used to, thus more murders. The local news did a story a few months ago about the gang violence rising on the east side of the city due to poor blacks and hispanic gangs being forced to live in close proximity due to the changing demographics of Denver. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MARIJUANA. 
