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Old 04-24-2017, 10:05 AM
 
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Folks, do remember that the Korean War is NOT over. No Armistice was ever signed, just a "cease fire" or "truce". We are technically still at war with North Korea.
It is apparent that Kim does not believe in (or never learned) the MAD concept: "Mutually Assured Destruction". OK, you think you can reduce us to ash, but while you are doing that (if you can), we will be doing the same thing to YOU, and we most certainly CAN do it!
I would venture to say that the assets are already in place, waiting for the "GO" order. Within minutes of a verified launch aimed at the United States, I do believe that order will be broadcast!
No, we are not.
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Old 04-24-2017, 10:08 AM
 
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I don't believe North Korea is a direct threat to the US yet. I don't think they have anything that could hit Los Angeles or even Hawaii. However, my worry is they will strike South Korea, Australia, Japan, Tawain, or something else on that side of the world and if they do that, it's game on.

Whether or not that would be WW3 depends on China. Will China side with North Korea or the rest of the world?
Tricky question. On the one hand, they can't be happy that N Korea had the ruler's brother assassinated while he was under the protection of the Chinese. On the other hand, any instability in N Korea will result in millions of refugees flooding across the border into China, at a time when they can least afford it economically.
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Old 04-24-2017, 10:22 AM
 
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North Korea Threatens To Sink U.S. Carrier; China Urges Restraint : The Two-Way : NPR
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Old 04-24-2017, 11:01 AM
 
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No, we are not.
since no peace treaty was signed between the allies, and north korea/china/russia, a state of war still exists in that region.

perhaps you should look up the terms "cease fire" and "peace treaty" and note the differences.
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Old 04-24-2017, 11:18 AM
 
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The US Navy Aims To Sink Its Radioactive Warships Off Korea
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Old 04-24-2017, 11:24 AM
 
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I'm actually good with taking out the crazy fat kid.

Which one?

Kim Jung-un or Donald Trump?

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Old 04-24-2017, 02:51 PM
 
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How about:
- the leaders of all involved countries meeting in a nice, peaceful place for a week or two, no stress, no deadlines
- defining what each side actually wants and explaining why it acts the way it does
- reaching a binding compromise, which might look like this:


NK is granted the right to continue its communist system. (In my view NK's main gripe/fear is that foreign countries try to make NK give up communism. But let's face it, a country's political and economic system is none of other countries' business as long as the respective country is not aggressive. Nobody forces foreign commy-haters to invest in such a country if they don't like it.)

NK slips under China's protective umbrella and is per contract safe from military and political attacks by other countries, so that NK feels safe and its paranoia gradually goes away.

At the same time NK permanently ceases all its missile and nuclear programs and also agrees per contract not to attack any other country. This will be monitored by teams of independent observers from various countries who have unlimited access to the respective sites.

Political prisoners will be released and sanctions will be lifted; NK will be integrated into the world community again so that they can invest their resources in their economy rather than silly arms programs and a giant yet useless army.

Involved countries will create a kind of investment and technology plan and fund to jump-start NK's economy and agriculture and bring important infrastructure up to date in order to reduce famine and poverty quickly. Maybe it would be necessary to create a new kind of organization type for such investments, halfway between communism and capitalism, for instance any organization is 50% state-controlled and 50% private, which requires agreement on all decisions.

There will be all kinds of bilateral exchange programs between NK and SK in order to create trust and personal relationships.

US military in SK will be gradually reduced if there are no violations of the agreements for 10 years. Likewise China's sponsorship will be reduced and ultimately end.

Ultimately the goal is for both SK and NK to be free of military and reunite in a new way (not at all like in the case of Germany). More like a union of two related countries. But of course they could kind of fuse in the long run if both sides wish to do so. But no outsiders will force neither side to anything.
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Old 04-24-2017, 02:53 PM
 
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No, we are not.
Yes we are, well at least South Korea is. The war never ended. There was only a cease fire.
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Old 04-24-2017, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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which one?

Kim jung-un or donald trump?

.
lmao
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Old 04-24-2017, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I don't believe North Korea is a direct threat to the US yet.
So, basically, people have to die for you to believe North Korea is a direct threat. Got it.


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NK is granted the right to continue its communist system.
Even Marx would frown on North Korea's "system" which is definitely totalitarian, but not exactly Marxist or Communist.

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Yes we are, well at least South Korea is. The war never ended. There was only a cease fire.
Not anymore.....you don't even have that.

North Korea declares 1953 armistice invalid

By Madison Park, CNN
Updated 1:07 PM ET, Mon March 11, 2013

North Korea declares 1953 armistice invalid - CNN.com
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