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Bernie lost big in states with a large number of black voters. Bernie did not know how to pander to blacks.
Bernie didnt have the money to change the opinion of the "Clinton brand" in the black community. Bernie had 0.001% name recognition among this group prior to announcing his candidacy. Its basically an impossible task.
I'm a big Bernie supporter, and wasn't really a HRC supporter...but she didn't steal anything. He didn't get enough votes. I wish he had started his campaign earlier, but he didn't. Why is this revisionist nonsense still being pushed on Internet forums? I keep seeing it...
Bernie called himself a revolutionary. The Democrats had picked a winner all along and let Sanders's supporters enjoy their 15 minutes of "revolution. Two things...
1) He seemed afraid of standing up to the Clintons.
2) Or, more cynically, he was in the fix, too and went along with the charade to get his 15 minutes of fame.
And now he'll put out a book to buy a bigger home.
Great to see! Now if we could just get the GOP to destroy itself and allow a new nationalist populist brand of politician rise. One who has no interest in policing the world,bullying other nations etc and their sole focus is on America and its citizens.
And Hillary lost the most winable election in world history.
Yes, Hillary got more votes that Trump because of large urban centers like NY and California with a large coalition of so-called minorities and LGBTQIA people.
I'm not talking about the general election - the reasons for HRC loss are fairly well-understood. In the electoral college system, she didn't do well enough in swing states (often losing by very slim margins).
I'm speaking very specifically about the idea that the DNC candidacy was stolen from Bernie. No, it was not. He didn't get enough primary votes to win the DNC candidacy. It is that SIMPLE.
And Hillary lost the most winable election in world history.
Yes, Hillary got more votes that Trump because of large urban centers like NY and California with a large coalition of so-called minorities and LGBTQIA people.
This isnt about Hillary. I didnt even vote for her.
This is about Trumpsters who support the most divisive figure ever who campaigned on a platform of standing up to special interests and representing the people while as soon as he enters office he signs an internet spying bill with 6% popular support that lets your internet company sell your internet history to anyone they want without you knowing it. Thats called "draining the swamp". LOL. What a fraud.
I'm not talking about the general election - the reasons for HRC loss are fairly well-understood. In the electoral college system, she didn't do well enough in swing states (often losing by very slim margins).
I'm speaking very specifically about the idea that the DNC candidacy was stolen from Bernie. No, it was not. He didn't get enough primary votes to win the DNC candidacy. It is that SIMPLE.
The Democrats had picked a winner all along and let Sanders's supporters enjoy their 15 minutes of "revolution. Two things...
1) He seemed afraid of standing up to the Clintons.
2) Or, more cynically, he was in the fix, too and went along with the charade to get his 15 minutes of fame.
And now he'll put out a book to buy a bigger home.
I'm not talking about the general election - the reasons for HRC loss are fairly well-understood. In the electoral college system, she didn't do well enough in swing states (often losing by very slim margins).
Michigan and Pennsylvania were not supposed to be swing states for her.
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I'm speaking very specifically about the idea that the DNC candidacy was stolen from Bernie. No, it was not. He didn't get enough primary votes to win the DNC candidacy. It is that SIMPLE.
We are well aware that the DNC cheated to push Hillary. It puts it's thumb on the scales by noting that Hillary already had a large number of super delegates locked up even before the first vote was cast.
Bernie called himself a revolutionary. The Democrats had picked a winner all along and let Sanders's supporters enjoy their 15 minutes of "revolution. Two things...
1) He seemed afraid of standing up to the Clintons.
2) Or, more cynically, he was in the fix, too and went along with the charade to get his 15 minutes of fame.
How would he stand up to the Clintons after the DNC declared HRC the candidate (based on primary voting results!!)? What do you think he could have LEGITIMATELY done at that point? We live in a two-party system, for better or worse (I personally hate it, but it's the reality of our political system).
He could have gone Independent, and been another Jill Stein - but he was pragmatic about it, realizing that if he did so, he would split up the democratic voting base, and basically hand a win to Trump (he was probably right...if he had ran independently, neither candidate would have beaten a R candidate).
Listen: I would have loved to have supported Bernie. But he didn't win the candidacy because he didn't get the primary votes. That is how it went down. It's unfortunate. It doesn't make him a sell out that he took the loss in stride and decided to sit it out after losing.
Please stop parroting your revisionist history nonsense.
I'm not too sure about that, although you might be correct. Bernie was once asked the same question in an interview and he said talking about what might have been doesn't help anyone.
I've said it many times and I still believe that Comey cost Clinton the election and Jill Stein certainly didn't help. I mean, when you look at the EC and the popular vote, Trump was only slightly ahead in a handful of states. Just look at MI, PA & WI. Trump won those states by 0.2% (10,704) 0.7% (46,765) and 0.8% (22,177) Those 3 states alone gave him 46 EC votes. So if Clinton had done less than one point better in each state, she'd have won not only the popular vote, but the electoral vote as well. I also think she picked the wrong VP and needed someone with more appeal. So, yes, she made many mistakes, but I'm not so sure Bernie would have done much better. We'll never know.
In a way, except for the damage Trump is doing, waking up the Democrats was a good thing. They shrugged their shoulders and stayed home and now they're out protesting. I have to admit, when I see all the people marching, I shake my head and yell "you idiots, where were you on November 8?
I'm not too sure about that, although you might be correct. Bernie was once asked the same question in an interview and he said talking about what might have been doesn't help anyone.
I've said it many times and I still believe that Comey cost Clinton the election and Jill Stein certainly didn't help. I mean, when you look at the EC and the popular vote, Trump was only slightly ahead in a handful of states. Just look at MI, PA & WI. Trump won those states by 0.2% (10,704) 0.7% (46,765) and 0.8% (22,177) Those 3 states alone gave him 46 EC votes. So if Clinton had done less than one point better in each state, she'd have won not only the popular vote, but the electoral vote as well. I also think she picked the wrong VP and needed someone with more appeal. So, yes, she made many mistakes, but I'm not so sure Bernie would have done much better. We'll never know.
In a way, except for the damage Trump is doing, waking up the Democrats was a good thing. They shrugged their shoulders and stayed home and now they're out protesting. I have to admit, when I see all the people marching, I shake my head and yell "you idiots, where were you on November 8?
Doing the same thing. Like me they voted for Stein and will again if the choices are the same. Trump and Trump lite.
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