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Old 04-21-2017, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Canada
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*I* didn't call him a sell out!!!
I know.. I was AGREEING with you.. guess I forgot to say that explicitly enough! Sorry 'bout that!!


The rest of my post there was attempting to point out the differences of multi party government and a 2 part with multi-factions "Within" one of the 2. Because the multiparty group can and do band together which would out number by percentage than the leader does. 2 Party system .. gridlock happens and done's in the 2 party system.

Again Sorry, you mis-construed my response.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:08 PM
 
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The kids i referred to were the college kids. The voters Trump pulled were established Rs, but he pulled in many who had given up on the political system years ago.

Hillary kept her crowds small and practically hand picked. She gets nervous around big crowds. Candidate enthusiasm can be generated by means other than big crowds.
Oh. bull ****.

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Have you ever work in a political campaign, local state or POTUS?
Yes.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:12 PM
 
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Oh. bull ****.



Yes.
Then you should know by now third party is not on our future.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:18 PM
 
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Then you should know by now third party is not on our future.
I have no clue what this has to do with the idea that Hillary was absolutely the worse candidate the (D)'s could have foisted upon us.

Sanders would have won and been the kind of president we need. Hillary is Trump outside of the idea of where we can pee.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:20 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Why do all Democrats have to march in lockstep? That's darn near impossible. If Republicans can live with their warring factions, so should we be able to as well.

Not everyone is in love with Bernie; some are. So what?
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:34 PM
 
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Why do all Democrats have to march in lockstep? That's darn near impossible. If Republicans can live with their warring factions, so should we be able to as well.

Not everyone is in love with Bernie; some are. So what?
That's what primaries are for. No lockstep. Usually everybody gets behind the winner. I can't stand Hillary but I voted for her and the Supreme Court.

Democrats have never been lockstep. In Texas many years ago, the podium at the State convention had barbed wire around it. Or they had to call out the National guard.

But general election time, they were all on the same team.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:37 PM
 
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I have no clue what this has to do with the idea that Hillary was absolutely the worse candidate the (D)'s could have foisted upon us.

Sanders would have won and been the kind of president we need. Hillary is Trump outside of the idea of where we can pee.
So what? It is over. You don't like it? Get involved.

You can't stand her . You voted for Stein. How did that work out for you? Or the country?
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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So what? It is over. You don't like it? Get involved.

You can't stand her . You voted for Stein. How did that work out for you? Or the country?
We have yet to see how that worked out. So far not as good as I hoped as the (D)'s haven't seemed to have learned a thing. In the little picture it doesn't bother me. Hillary or Trump is all the same to me.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:45 PM
 
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You are talking primary. I'm talking general.
I'm talking both. Sanders was extremely popular precisely among the demographics that carried Trump to victory. Have you noticed how Sanders routinely get rooms full of Trump supporters to cheer for him as he tours the country? Rural Vermont is Sanders country. Why? Because rural and working class Americans like straight shooters with integrity. Sanders is a pro-labor New Deal democrat with decades of consistency. You cant fake that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgGEKVxE_YM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ArbwhF0M_I
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:48 PM
 
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That's what primaries are for. No lockstep. Usually everybody gets behind the winner. I can't stand Hillary but I voted for her and the Supreme Court.

Democrats have never been lockstep. In Texas many years ago, the podium at the State convention had barbed wire around it. Or they had to call out the National guard.

But general election time, they were all on the same team.
Far from it. Libertarians (right) got more votes than Green (left). You need to move on. Hillary is gone. If she had to rely on the Green Party getting 0.000001% of the vote in the midwestern states, she was a bad candidate. It wasnt freakin' Russia that told Hillary to not campaign in Wisconsin.
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