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Old 04-26-2017, 04:29 PM
 
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Google has known everything I've done online for years.

Nothing has really changed other than some people freaking out.
Google is at least opt-in. With the power given to ISPs there is no control over who gets to see your data, and what data they get to see exactly.

I agree that in the modern world, there isn't much semblance of privacy left. But these kind of practices are as slimy as it gets. And our Congress just sold us all out - not cool.
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Old 04-26-2017, 04:30 PM
 
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No, but that's not the point.

It depends on who taps into it, and why. If you're pricing liquor, if you're doing a search for AIDS symptoms, if you are following a news thread that takes you to an Al Jazeera site, if you are research bankruptcy protocol - even if you're doing it for a friend - who can predict what unknown result it might have?

I'm sure a lot of people will even think twice about emailing/texting fervent political opinions.
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Old 04-26-2017, 04:31 PM
 
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I'm guessing a lot of embarrassment, turned down credit, jobs denied, schools denied, etc. are likely but Trump supporters are true believers that he is never wrong and he is laughing all the way to the bank.
Embarrassment over what?

Are you embarrassed for checking out porn from time to time? I'm not.

Only uptight holier than thou types will be embarrassed, because they might be exposed as just like everyone else.

Much ado over nothing.
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Old 04-26-2017, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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No problem here. I have a rule that says that if I would be ashamed for someone to know something I might do, I just don't do it, includes internet sites. I have nothing to hide.
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Old 04-26-2017, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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How am I affected? Well, since it happened, I now get 2-3 calls a day from a Pakistani sounding technician from Microsoft services telling me my computer is having troubles. All he needs is my name, address, telephone number (I don't know how the dumba$$ doesn't know my number when he called me), my ip address (again, if my computer alerted them, how does he not already have this), driver's license number and expiration, social security number, bank routing and account numbers and all my credit card numbers and he will be able to fix my computer over the phone.
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Old 04-26-2017, 04:33 PM
 
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Years ago the CEO of Sun Microsystems made a comment I took to heart.

"You have zero privacy anyway," Scott McNealy told a group of reporters and analysts Monday night at an event to launch his company's new Jini technology.
"Get over it."

http://archive.wired.com/politics/la.../1999/01/17538
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Old 04-26-2017, 04:55 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Embarrassment over what?

Are you embarrassed for checking out porn from time to time? I'm not.

Only uptight holier than thou types will be embarrassed, because they might be exposed as just like everyone else.

Much ado over nothing
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What reason is there to believe this is the end rather than the beginning?

Perhaps the insurance industry sees the potential for more $$$, buys a few more politicians, and soon your medical records are available for purchase. Or your financial records, etc. In WHAT way does this serve the people?
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Old 04-26-2017, 05:00 PM
 
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It can go both ways or any way.

As the common person, sure, my browsing history might hurt me. But I am not a common person, I'M A SPY!, and I will use many, many devious methods to gain the information I need. I get a kick out of it how, even though I'm not their fan by any definition of the word, I've used Greenpeace data bases to achieve my conclusions. Whenever I'm talking to someone, anyone, I am probably running an analysis in some part of my head of what can be learned from the conversation for new weapo, errrrr, tools.

So, are they hiring me as a common person or for my ability to find answers (and with 4 earned university degrees on my resume, I'm talking to the wrong people if they aren't in the latter).

It's like when a company asks one in an interview to reveal their social media and passwords. Essentially, the answer should be like this: "Now, wait a minute. You are looking to hire me and expect me to keep your secrets safe yet you want me to violate my security protocols now? You would expect me to deny any bribes to reveal your information yet you hang the prospect of a job infront of me to release mine? The answer is no, both ethically and by training.".

AND.......it can go other ways. During the Bush Administration, I was with the Sierra Club and they wanted to go down to Padre Island to build sand animals to protest drilling. It seems peaceful enough but I am aware enough to know that such things attract attention, attract the press, and I could just picture a security interview with someone sliding a picture from such an affair, of me, and saying, "Can you explain this, Ms. Ounce?".

Be very aware of what you do, be ready to explain and defend what you have done, especially when it involves all the work you have put into your life.

All this rather reminds me of being in the intelligence community once. Inside, you just assume that someone is always looking over your shoulder and carry on from that. Back during the Cold War, a girl in my belly dance class was an immigrant from a Warsaw Pact country and I had to report that contact, that I had a classmate like that, to my superior security agency, one of those alphabet types.

She was shocked that I had to report that.......but when you are part of the intelligence world, that's just the way it is and you accept it and carry on.

Why are you telling us that you are a spy? Do you think that CD is really a secure site?

Don't you realize that any competent hacker already knows everything about you?
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Old 04-26-2017, 05:01 PM
 
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What reason is there to believe this is the end rather than the beginning?

Perhaps the insurance industry sees the potential for more $$$, buys a few more politicians, and soon your medical records are available for purchase. Or your financial records, etc. In WHAT way does this serve the people?
Trump will tell them it's to help them and they will believe it. Trump University, unpaid contractors, deposits on condos never built, it's all ignored because wall and MAGA. Everything that's happening now, selling browsing history, selling public lands, etc. is like watching WALL-E in real life.
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Old 04-26-2017, 05:03 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Why are you telling us that you are a spy? Do you think that CD is really a secure site?

Don't you realize that any competent hacker already knows everything about you?

And that means we should ease the path for the incompetent ones and let them profit from those who gain nothing from the exchange?


What's truly amusing here is not all that long ago there were people up in arms in thses very forums over the prospect of drones overflying their property and photographing what was in plain sight. I'd venture to guess some of those very same people are so high on the Kool-Aid they NOW have no problem with their information that's NOT in plain sight being sold on the open market.
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