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Old 04-27-2017, 09:18 AM
 
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My grand parents were immigrants. I am an American citizen. That is good enough for me.


To answer the question about the original immigrants to North and South America, they were undocumented (a legal trivia that allowed the Europeans to justify stealing the place) immigrants from Asia that moved in some 10 to 12 thousand years ago.

AFAC if somebody wants to immigrate to this country and can prove they do not have a criminal record (exception for the real criminals in the intelligence, banking and petroleum communities) they are quite welcome. Most become good citizens and neighbors.

The settlers/immigrants from Europe were not illegals. There were no immigration laws back then. Get a grip! Conquering was the norm back then, good or evil.


No, we cannot allow everyone in the world to come here just because they want to. We have annual quotas for legal immigration in place for good reasons.

 
Old 04-27-2017, 09:19 AM
 
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We live in a country or nation-state called the United States. The United States is made up of several nations, particularly the regional-ethnic-value divide. Don't think for one minute that this is one nation.
 
Old 04-27-2017, 09:20 AM
 
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once again it becomes a debate of words not meaning or substance.

We all know what it means when we say this is a nation of immigrants. We know it doesn't mean not every American was born here.

We get it.....

Except, that many people use that slogan to blackmail us into thinking we should allow anyone to migrate here at will , with our without permission today. That's why I hate that slogan and it's inaccurate anyway.
 
Old 04-27-2017, 09:21 AM
 
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Mom moved here at age four. She's an immigrant. I'm not. My dad was born here; he wasn't an immigrant either.
Oh, you're an anchor baby?
 
Old 04-27-2017, 09:25 AM
 
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Oh, you're an anchor baby?
Nope. My mom moved here legally.
 
Old 04-27-2017, 09:26 AM
 
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OMG.

Get over it, folks.

First, this entire discussion is just a bunch of hooey.

A significant portion of our population is made up by immigrants. 13.5% are immigrants, and 26% of ALL children in the United States reside with immigrant parents.

That means that immigrants have a significant impact on our culture and society.

And even if you reject that, this nation was still founded by immigrants. The people who immigrated to the New World imported their culture, their laws, their perspectives to this new place, and eventually broke free of the European countries to create something unique. The immigrants who came after the founding of the nation have all contributed to what we are now, what we will be in the future.


None of that makes it OK to conflate legal immigrants with illegal immigrants.

Which is the entire purpose of the " we are a nation of immigrants" narrative that the left pushes.
 
Old 04-27-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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It is a melting pot of immigrants. It is more a nation of immigrants than it is not. The population increased at a high rate due to immigrants who often had many children just as much as the native immigrants.

The statement "America is a nation of immigrants" holds much more water than the statement "America is not a nation of immigrants" undoubtedly. Very basic logic.
 
Old 04-27-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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I agree. I am the daughter of immigrants and therefore, more familiar with that experience. I have the drive that often comes with being a recent American. I am culturally mixed and have strong ties to two nations, not just one.

A generational American, I am NOT.
 
Old 04-27-2017, 09:33 AM
 
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It is a melting pot of immigrants. It is more a nation of immigrants than it is not. The population increased at a high rate due to immigrants who often had many children just as much as the native immigrants.

The statement "America is a nation of immigrants" holds much more water than the statement "America is not a nation of immigrants" undoubtedly. Very basic logic.
All your European countries are also a "nation of immigrants" by liberal logic. There have been so many wars, invasions along with the genetic mixing that the populations look very little like they looked 1000 years ago.

More left wing wasting of our time. Which is their job these days apparently.
 
Old 04-27-2017, 09:34 AM
 
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I agree. I am the daughter of immigrants and therefore, more familiar with that experience. I have the drive that often comes with being a recent American. I am culturally mixed and have strong ties to two nations, not just one.

A generational American, I am NOT.
Ah, the good ol' notion that recent immigrants are more driven and industrious than we lazy native citizens.
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