Army Vet Faces 21 years for High Capacity Magazines (attorney, Christmas, voters)
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When buying at a dealer that is the case in all states.
Most illegal guns come from straw purchasers or are stollen. Both things which are already illegal and in the chase of straw purchasers is rarely prosecuted.
When buying at a dealer that is the case in all states.
Most illegal guns come from straw purchasers or are stollen. Both things which are already illegal and in the chase of straw purchasers is rarely prosecuted.
Yes, when buying through a dealer. However, in many states no back ground check is required when buying a gun through a private buyer.
Yes, when buying through a dealer. However, in many states no back ground check is required when buying a gun through a private buyer.
Which is not being used, by and large, to acquire guns for use by the criminal element.
The question is really pretty simple. Show a state that passes an anti gun law and then has a measured reduction in gun crime outside of current trends. I'll save you some research, it does not exist. The anti gun laws have no measurable difference in crime statistics, making them worthless.
Which is not being used, by and large, to acquire guns for use by the criminal element.
The question is really pretty simple. Show a state that passes an anti gun law and then has a measured reduction in gun crime outside of current trends. I'll save you some research, it does not exist. The anti gun laws have no measurable difference in crime statistics, making them worthless.
Not saying that they do. Just stating that it is easy to buy a gun, in many states, without a back ground check.
Not saying that they do. Just stating that it is easy to buy a gun, in many states, without a back ground check.
I'll dispute this, though it's hard to prove because outside of FFL holders, there are no readily-accessible records. In PA, while it's perfectly legal to sell a gun to another person, most people aren't willing to sell to a stranger without some sort of check. In many cases, when you look at ads or posts, the seller states that you must meet them at the FFL's place to have a background check done. At a minimum, most sellers in PA ask that you have a current LTCF (license to carry a firearm), and a lot will ask you to sign a bill of sale, so they're protected in case the gun turns up in a crime situation. In order to get that license, you have to get approval from your county sheriff, who will run a background check and phone two references you list on your application.
From a quick glance at the classified section of a forum I belong to:
" would be looking to meet at a local FFL for transfer"
"if you're from one of the near States, do NOT offer to drive here and purchase FTF, you will also be ignored."
"Buyer also pays the FFL transfer fee."
"The transaction would have at *** Weaponry"
"Looking for FTF transactions with both valid PA DL and PA LTCF, no exceptions."
Here is one guy who wants to buy FTF, and no one is responding to his post. He's bumped the post nine times over the course of a couple months, with zero results:
"Looking for a FTF sale." LOL.
(FTF means face-to-face. I deleted specific shop names or locations.)
I'll dispute this, though it's hard to prove because outside of FFL holders, there are no readily-accessible records. In PA, while it's perfectly legal to sell a gun to another person, most people aren't willing to sell to a stranger without some sort of check. In many cases, when you look at ads or posts, the seller states that you must meet them at the FFL's place to have a background check done. At a minimum, most sellers in PA ask that you have a current LTCF (license to carry a firearm), and a lot will ask you to sign a bill of sale, so they're protected in case the gun turns up in a crime situation. In order to get that license, you have to get approval from your county sheriff, who will run a background check and phone two references you list on your application.
From a quick glance at the classified section of a forum I belong to:
" would be looking to meet at a local FFL for transfer"
"if you're from one of the near States, do NOT offer to drive here and purchase FTF, you will also be ignored."
"Buyer also pays the FFL transfer fee."
"The transaction would have at *** Weaponry"
"Looking for FTF transactions with both valid PA DL and PA LTCF, no exceptions."
Here is one guy who wants to buy FTF, and no one is responding to his post. He's bumped the post nine times over the course of a couple months, with zero results:
"Looking for a FTF sale." LOL.
(FTF means face-to-face. I deleted specific shop names or locations.)
Sure, if people want to do one they can. Nothing wrong with covering your ass.
Still doesn't change the fact that many states don't require it. And I see nothing wrong with that.
Sure, if people want to do one they can. Nothing wrong with covering your ass.
Still doesn't change the fact that many states don't require it. And I see nothing wrong with that.
. Just added what I did because there are more than a few people who think all private sales are easy, cheap, and no background checks are the rule, when the opposite is usually true. The more gun owners counter these kind of misperceptions the better off we are.
Quit trying to put words in my mouth. I never said a word about punishment for God's sake What I very clearly said is that an excuse for breaking the law is not created because the activity was once legal...that's all I said. I don't care about magazines or NY gun law or whatever it is that you are trying to argue about. I simply DO NOT CARE, but for the recored there never were 6 million instant felons created because of the passage of a new law and no, you did not refute it because for that to be true there would have had to have been 6 million FELONY CONVICTIONS, get it?
You are playing semantics.
You know exactly what the poster you quoted meant by creating 6 million new felons.
By your logic, a killer is not a murderer until he's caught and convicted.
Making any item illegal that was legal makes everyone in possession of that item an instant criminal in the eyes of the law, regardless if they have been convicted or not.
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. Just added what I did because there are more than a few people who think all private sales are easy, cheap, and no background checks are the rule, when the opposite is usually true. The more gun owners counter these kind of misperceptions the better off we are.
