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Old 05-02-2017, 06:17 PM
 
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Pyongyang has been known to exaggerate its problems to encourage outside assistance to feed it's people on other countries dime while they continue to fund it's military. .
exactly.

There IS no peace to be had with North Korea, because North Korea's best industry is using military power to leverage more international aid for itself.

The more seriously you take them, the more missiles they're going to launch.

This isn't a country that actually has any interest in natural resources, expansion, diplomacy, etc- they're only interested in handouts, and there's no real way for them to gain handouts any other way.

In fact, North Korea is SUCH a dumpster fire that it simply isn't possible for the US OR China to simply invade and depose Kim Jong Un, or even to publicly expose their military for the fraud it is. The entire country is a failed state. the second the regime collapsed, you would have 22 million refugees flooding into China, or South Korea.

All of Europe is completely screwed with only a tenth of that amount of Syrians fleeing the crisis in THAT country. Absorbing that many fanatical, desperate North Koreans is completely impossible. And North Korea has no arable farmland and no infrastructure- it barely has electricity. Attempting to occupy it like Iraq would turn into the most expensive money sink ever seen- neither the US nor the Chinese have any interest in throwing trillions down a hole to make North Korea livable.

It's unfortunately a problem to which there is no realistic solution.
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:19 PM
 
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Should the United States just accept that North Korea is a nuclear power and make our peace with them? After all, we have "normal" relations with other dictatorships, such as China and Saudi Arabia.
Remove Jung un then make peace.
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I think we should sit back and let North Korea's neighbors figure out what to do. We should not plan on a Presidential visit even if The Donald suggested it.
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:29 PM
 
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I think we should sit back and let North Korea's neighbors figure out what to do. We should not plan on a Presidential visit even if The Donald suggested it.
Yes we could.

But Hawaii seems to be within reach of a warhead.
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:34 PM
 
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It's better than shooting nukes at each other.
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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We currently have military commanders that are complaining we are shifting too many resources towards North Korea while they need the bombs for Syria. North Korea is heavily militarized and it would take all of our resources to fight a prolonged war with that country. Russia and Iran are sitting back quietly and not doing too much to stop any conflict - almost like they welcome it. Even China is suspect in the global power struggle. My feeling is all of them might have ulterior motives and they are probably encouraging the start of this war. This will not be 1953 all over again - too many 'players'.
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Old 05-02-2017, 07:54 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Yes we could.

But Hawaii seems to be within reach of a warhead.
As well as Australia. DPRK just threatened such an attack.
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Old 05-02-2017, 07:56 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Should the United States just accept that North Korea is a nuclear power and make our peace with them? After all, we have "normal" relations with other dictatorships, such as China and Saudi Arabia.
I think DRPK makes an excellent glass parking lot.
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Old 05-02-2017, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Yes we could.

But Hawaii seems to be within reach of a warhead.
We are. The question remains whether NK could ever build a precise enough warhead to actually hit some small dots in the middle of the Pacific?
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Old 05-02-2017, 08:37 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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We are. The question remains whether NK could ever build a precise enough warhead to actually hit some small dots in the middle of the Pacific?
Is that something you want to "try at home"?
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