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Old 05-02-2017, 10:16 PM
 
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Full repeal.

Anything less is not acceptable.
Your boy trump is going to disappoint you.

Bigly.
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Old 05-02-2017, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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So in order to please the most right wing Republicans, they are taking away a lot, including winding down Medicaid and increasing costs for older people. Further, they want to allow states to opt out of covering pre-existing conditions.

If GOP Passes Trumpcare, It

Now Trump said none of this would happen but, hey the election is over so who cares - certainly not his supporters. It should be interesting watching what happens when older people start getting the bills and Appalachia no longer has coverage.
I'm tired of fighting the battles. You can't fight stupidity honestly. Let them hurt and die. That's their own mistake for voting. A plus for us since there's now money to do a tax cut. Just make sure that if they die, tell them, sorry I ain't paying for your healthcare cause that's called legalized theft and "Elections have consequences".
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Old 05-04-2017, 08:27 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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As long as it is voluntary, I'd have absolutely no problem with that idea.
It can't be voluntary or it won't work. Maybe you remember a story about a man that didn't pay his annual $75 fee to his local fire department for emergency service. It's hard to believe, but they let his house burn to the ground.

He probably never thought he'd need it. Houses aren't people, however. Are you okay if people die because they decided not to participate?
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:18 PM
 
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It can't be voluntary or it won't work. Maybe you remember a story about a man that didn't pay his annual $75 fee to his local fire department for emergency service. It's hard to believe, but they let his house burn to the ground.

He probably never thought he'd need it. Houses aren't people, however. Are you okay if people die because they decided not to participate?
A better question is: Are you okay with being infected with whatever it is they have because they decided not to participate?
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Old 05-05-2017, 04:47 AM
 
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Think Senate will build their own plan now that the ball is in their Court. You wonder if they'll wait till after midterm elections to pass this.
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Old 05-05-2017, 04:54 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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So in order to please the most right wing Republicans, they are taking away a lot, including winding down Medicaid and increasing costs for older people. Further, they want to allow states to opt out of covering pre-existing conditions.

If GOP Passes Trumpcare, It

Now Trump said none of this would happen but, hey the election is over so who cares - certainly not his supporters. It should be interesting watching what happens when older people start getting the bills and Appalachia no longer has coverage.
Interesting that ObamaCare (the ACA) was passed based on total lies, and the Dems didn't even know what was in it. Now the Democrats want to claim the Republicans are lying and that the plan will cause deaths, and are predicting gloom and doom. This, even though the insurance companies are abandoning the ACA in droves, leaving many people without choices, beside the fact that it is unaffordable.

The Dems refuse to admit their failure, yet are quick to claim the Republican plan is already a failure. They'd rather keep the failed plan, even though they know it's already dead. They don't care that a lot of people are going to be hurt when it collapses with nothing to replace it with.
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Old 05-05-2017, 04:56 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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It will not get through the Senate even if it does get through the House.
You'd better hope it does.
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Old 05-05-2017, 05:00 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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LOL. It wont make it through the house with larger cuts. What a clown show.

Even the House members know it won't survive even if they pass it. So they are wasting time when they could do something useful.
"We must pass this bill, then we will find out what's in it." — Nancy Pelosi

Was that not a "clown show?"

The ACA hasn't survived. It is dead. It is unaffordable and it is worthless. You'd better hope this passes the Senate.
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Old 05-05-2017, 05:02 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The new word the GOP is using is "ACCESS". it's not cheaper, it's not better, it doesn't cover everything, but it provides ACCESS. Now the reason that magical word applies is because it applies to everything. We all have ACCESS to buying something, it doesn't mean it's affordable.

5 Trump health care promises that won't become reality - POLITICO


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgiahHVVbYE
That word isn't a GOP word. It's been a favorite of the Left for decades.
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Old 05-05-2017, 05:04 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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This isn't Trump's bill, it was put out by Ryan, and changed to appease the more conservative members of congress.

But hey, lets not let the facts get in the way of an anti-Trump rant.
Such as the fact that Trump approved of this plan? So now Trump supporters are going with this deflection. Since it's a crappy plan, it's not Trumpcare, it's Ryancare, so the fact that it's a lousy plan is Ryan's fault

I'm sure if it were a great plan Trip would be lapping up all the credit for inventing it. The Republicans can't just slow their roll, think for a while, and come up with a decent healthcare idea. Instead they decide it's better to just throw us a horrible healthcare plan NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW. The excuses for this jerk's incompetence never end, do they?
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