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The propaganda usually depicts North Koreans as starving to death. Obviously it is not the truth. In fact the nutrition condition of North Koreans is better than that of other poor countries.
You understand this story was written by people who went to the one place in NK where there is a little food, did you bother to research NK?
I ask you, because i have, and the smuggled videos are shocking. the poverty , the abuses the police state with neighbor turning each other in.
But i guess those videos are fakes, because you don't like them. i suggest you spend a little time on this, the writers were in the show city and nothing more. They are watched the whole time, the poeple know they are being watched, they know they risk death for saying anything neg or even for not being super positive.
you have to be kidding me if you think this story is worth a cent, the writer should have bright red faces for printing this junk. Read the UN stats, watch the real videos, listen to the escapees
from the same link as above.
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Several of us asked our minders about the labor camps, but none of us got far. North Korea doesn’t acknowledge the existence of the camps, and so our minders didn’t either. To them, the camps simply don’t exist.
That's because they pick kids out that have athletic talent and take them from their families and train them for it, like they did in the Soviet Union and China. That is evidence only of them keeping their Olympians well fed, not that the country is better than India and Pakistan.
Seriously, read more news or do some research. You obviously have no clue about how the NK regime is, and how the people there live in terror constantly. People get killed just for watching smuggled Hollywood movies. People can be executed for crimes, and their whole families executed with them. It's horrible! I think anyplace on earth is better than living in NK.
They don't eat movies, do they? Seriously, people get bent out of shape if one story deviates from what they're told to believe. We know North Korea has had famine in the past. We don't know that at this present time. Far more people are affected from foreign-sponsored terrorism and wars than a isolated dictatorial regime. There were 65 million people displaced in 2015 alone.
They don't eat movies, do they? Seriously, people get bent out of shape if one story deviates from what they're told to believe. We know North Korea has had famine in the past. We don't know that at this present time. Far more people are affected from foreign-sponsored terrorism and wars than a isolated dictatorial regime. There were 65 million people displaced in 2015 alone.
yea not buying it.
If North Korea wants to disprove anything they should open up the country ... until then we have to take the word of the emigres (refugees)...
You are correct that there is little evidence of people leaving. Unfortunately, you are implying that "things aren't that bad", when the truth is that the NK government hides the truth, and any exodus will result in not only the person leaving being executed (if caught), but their entire family as well. It's how evil dictators control behavior. The Koreans excel at that.
Unless Africa, Pakistan, India and Mexico have concentration camps where citizens are routinely tortured, starved and killed, I'd have to think North Koreans are not in better shape.
Again, correct that there are no foreign insurgencies in the country. I mean, why are they necessary when it's the country's own government that are running amok, killing and starving people?
As for that last sentence, I don't even know what that means, or how it in any way applies to NK.
The story claims to rebut claims that North Koreans face starvation, albeit from the limited expousre of a single reporter's travels.
There is little evidence that there is starvation there at the present time. There was much press last year claiming that to be the case. When there is that much media attention on a subject and so little evidence, one should be skeptical.
The current food crisis is in Africa, all of the countries are currently in turmoil due to terrorism.
You answered your own question. If things are as bad as claimed, there would surely be more people fleeing the country across the border with China. Nearly three times as many people as the entire population of North Korea sought asylum in 2015 from countries due to terrorism and wars in Africa and the Middle East.
Since 2010, government-approved markets like shopping centers have doubled. There are now 440, and they’re growing, according to satellite images.
More than a million people have found employment as retailers or managers in these markets.
At least 40 percent of the population is now involved in “some form of private enterprise” — comparable to the levels seen in Poland and Hungary after the fall of the Soviet bloc.
You can find Coca-Cola, once lambasted as a “cesspool water of capitalism” by state propaganda, in some grocery stores.
Smugglers routinely cross into North Korea to sell pirated copies of Hollywood movies and South Korean television dramas.
More than 3 million people use cellphones.
There’s been a boom in construction and cars in the capital of Pyongyang.
Watching movies and eating food has nothing in common, unless you're talking about buttered popcorn deprivation. The original post in the thread tried to compare food deprivation to India and Pakistan, which are understandable to some extent as some areas of those countries are as bad as any 3rd world country.
You answered your own question. If things are as bad as claimed, there would surely be more people fleeing the country across the border with China. Nearly three times as many people as the entire population of North Korea sought asylum in 2015 from countries due to terrorism and wars in Africa and the Middle East.
This is a simplistic view of reality. From this site:
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Every year, thousands of North Koreans risk their lives to escape political and economic oppression.
Even if they make it to China, they face grave danger because the Chinese government arrests and forcibly repatriates North Korean refugees. If sent back, they undergo interrogation and are at risk of extremely harsh punishments including torture, forced labor, forced abortions, and internment in a political prison camp. Even if they manage to evade the authorities in China, their illegal status forces them to work in invisible industries and leaves them vulnerable to exploitation by sex traffickers and unscrupulous employers.
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