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Old 05-06-2017, 10:38 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Yep, La La Land. You obviously weren't paying attention to the hoops the GOP had to jump through to get the Freedom Caucus on board at all. They didn't want any kind of healthcare bill, they just wanted the whole thing to be repealed and be done with it.

The GOP worked very hard to get them on board, and the worst things in this POS bill are there solely to appease them.

Those are the very things that the Senate will remove.

Take them out and say good bye to the Freedum Caucus votes.
They were funded by the Koch brothers to defeat Trump.
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Old 05-06-2017, 10:39 AM
 
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One big improvement is that we, the people, have an opportunity to see and debate an issue which has such major impact on our lives. As opposed to a rammed-through piece of legislation that upended an important pillar of our society, with no debate or input from the public, and even the legislators were largely ignorant of the impact.

So now you have the ability to contact your representatives to make your opinion known.

Nice change to live in a democracy, isn't it?
The ACA was debated for nine months. Was that not enough time for you to contact your representative?

THIS POS, on the other hand, was rammed through without even being scored.

Basically, everything you posted is a lie.

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Old 05-06-2017, 10:41 AM
 
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That's not what I heard -- I heard that Democrats know that the ACA needed to be fixed.

This new plan is mainly the ACA with some changes that end in not much better...the problems are still there.
All the fake news generated by Democrats that the pre-existing conditions are not covered. They are.
They can't completely repeal it because there are too many cry babies from both sides. That's what entitlement programs do to people. It's human nature. They are repealing it slowly. The best thing is no more mandate. If they make it attractive enough, the young males will buy in.
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Old 05-06-2017, 10:41 AM
 
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The GOP owns the ACA now. .
Wrong. It passed w/o their votes, and most major insurers fled under Obama.
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Old 05-06-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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The ACA was debated for a year. Was that not enough time for you to contact your representative?

THIS POS, on the other hand, was rammed through without even being scored.

Basically, everything you posted is a lie.
What debate?
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Old 05-06-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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All the fake news generated by Democrats that the pre-existing conditions are not covered. They are.
They can't completely repeal it because there are too many cry babies from both sides. That's what entitlement programs do to people. It's human nature. They are repealing it slowly. The best thing is no more mandate. If they make it attractive enough, the young males will buy in.
Young will buy in when their cost is what it should be, w/o subsidizing Grandpa.
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Old 05-06-2017, 10:53 AM
 
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Wrong. It passed w/o their votes, and most major insurers fled under Obama.
But the GOP promised to fix it. They campaigned on how they were going to repeal and replace, repeal and replace, repeal and replace. Every single Republican candidate right up to the top of the ticket said it again and again and again at virtually every campaign stop.

The Republicans got elected on this promise, and now it's in their hands, and their hands only. And they are smart enough to know this, even if you are not.
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Old 05-06-2017, 10:59 AM
 
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It's getting old about the tax cut for the wealthy and the top 1%. It has not worked out for Hilary's camp.
People don't like it when they realize they were duped. Just because people are easily duped or not smart enough to realize it doesn't make it untrue.
New tohs plan is entirely a construct of Paul Ryan and the GOP. Your bogeyman has nothing to do with this.
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Old 05-06-2017, 11:01 AM
 
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What debate?
The bill was unveiled by the Democrats in July of 2009. It wasn't signed into law until the end of March of 2010. That's nine months of debate.

And before you go there, yes, the Republicans were very much involved in the process. They authored 210 amendments that they wanted in the bill. Of those 210, the Democrats adopted and included 161. Let me repeat that--the Democrats wrote 161 Republican amendments into the ACA.

Fact-checking the GOP on healthcare reform - Salon.com

Is that enough debate for you?
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Old 05-06-2017, 11:14 AM
 
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The bill was unveiled by the Democrats in July of 2009. It wasn't signed into law until the end of March of 2010. That's nine months of debate.

And before you go there, yes, the Republicans were very much involved in the process. They authored 210 amendments that they wanted in the bill. Of those 210, the Democrats adopted and included 161. Let me repeat that--the Democrats wrote 161 Republican amendments into the ACA.

Fact-checking the GOP on healthcare reform - Salon.com

Is that enough debate for you?
I only remember the part that Pelosi said, if you want to know what's in the bill you have to pass it.
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