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Old 05-05-2017, 06:45 PM
 
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Black Americans are on average about 30% white.
Hmmmph....

Anyway, this case is pretty interesting.
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Old 05-05-2017, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Japan
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This does highlight an uncomfortable truth in our society, that lighter skin is more 'valued' than darker skin. And those not agreeing with this choice are probably reacting against that value system.

It's unfortunate but this mentality that whiter skin is more beautiful is prevalent throughout the world, Asia, Latin America, etc.

https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/miss-bl...192846617.html

You're ready to blame society and the whole world for a choice made by a few black people running a minor beauty contest for black people?
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Old 05-05-2017, 06:53 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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This does highlight an uncomfortable truth in our society, that lighter skin is more 'valued' than darker skin. And those not agreeing with this choice are probably reacting against that value system.

It's unfortunate but this mentality that whiter skin is more beautiful is prevalent throughout the world, Asia, Latin America, etc.

https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/miss-bl...192846617.html

Good for her, she won Miss Black UofT. I personally have no problems with her winning the title.


But I will say that many brown skinned and dark skinned black women are tired of 1) the overall erasure of our image in black media and 2) the prevalent usage of biracial or light skinned black women to represent ideal black beauty.
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Old 05-05-2017, 07:20 PM
 
Location: L'Enfant D.C. near the southern end of the megalopolis
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Black Americans are on average about 30% white.
I've read that the ratio is closer to half that, about 17-18%. I think I know the source you are using (Ancestry.com?), which also says the average black American is 65% of African ancestry. Those figures are the whitest out of any source I've found, which might mean that their data was biased (could it be 1/4 and 1/2 black people being considered along with those having more distant white ancestors?).


Regarding the article, I think that the student definitely has a claim to her black heritage, which I am glad she embraces. However, the anger of other people is not unfounded, given that proximity to whiteness has historically (and often today) been equated with beauty among nonwhites in formerly colonised countries. But it can be said that she was chosen just because she is mixed if she went through the same processes as other contestants.
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Old 05-05-2017, 07:25 PM
 
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The people participating in that contest are racists.
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Old 05-05-2017, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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I can understand the frustration of dark-skinned women at seeing yet another example of someone who appears white, or nearly white, being held up as an ideal of beauty. I do not think it is okay for people to attack this young woman over it.
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Old 05-05-2017, 07:31 PM
 
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I can understand the frustration of dark-skinned women at seeing yet another example of someone who appears white, or nearly white, being held up as an ideal of beauty. I do not think it is okay for people to attack this young woman over it.
When you sign up to be in an exclusionary competition based on looks and race, you kind of deserve what you get.

Young lady, "I'm going to sign up for a contest that excludes people who are too white."

Crowd, "You're too white!"

Young lady, "That's not fair judging me not dark enough."
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I think us ugly people need to unite and ask why ugly people never win beauty contests.
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:22 PM
 
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Liv Tyler, actress daughter of rocker Steven Tyler, found a black slave ancestor in their family history. If you dig deep enough you'll find different ancestry. What I find ironic is the ones expressing racism based upon skin color are those who identify as African Americans
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:41 PM
 
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I think us ugly people need to unite and ask why ugly people never win beauty contests.
The next frontier in identity politics.
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