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What started this was your hypersensitivity. All I stated was I took care of my son when he needed to see a doctor. It is time we get back to family relyinmg on family and not government as the first option.
Now, let us get on topic.
How fast was life expectancy rising in the 8 years before 2009 and how fast in the 8 years since? It is liberals who frequently use life expectancy stats when measuring us against other nations.
When the War on Poverty began in 1965 the rapidly dropping poverty rate suddenly stabilized.
If Obamacare is saving lives the statistics should show it.
You really are going there...you are actually trying to claim that the ACA caused a drop in life expectancy. I'm just...gobsmacked
Do you wish to discuss the topic or is that too much to ask?
Where are the statistics backing up the claim Obamacare is saving lives?
I am discussing the topic, you just can't happen to understand what I was trying to say. With regards to political correctness...are you going to fight fire with fire or not? (Similar argument that keeps being brought up when talking about gun control)
Secondly... are you serious about that question? That's a pretty idiotic statement to make, the stats are all out there, look it up. Plus use some LOGIC. If people don't have insurance, where will they go to see the doctor?
You really think that more people with health insurance who have health issues will suddenly say, ah just let me get sicker and die?
Let me quote Kamala on this one: What the f**k is that?
I am discussing the topic, you just can't happen to understand what I was trying to say. With regards to political correctness...are you going to fight fire with fire or not? (Similar argument that keeps being brought up when talking about gun control)
Secondly... are you serious about that question? That's a pretty idiotic statement to make, the stats are all out there, look it up.
I have already looked it up. The stats show life expectancy increased greater in the 8 years before 2009 then the 8 years after.
What started this was your hypersensitivity. All I stated was I took care of my son when he needed to see a doctor. It is time we get back to family relyinmg on family and not government as the first option.
Whatever. you're just sad.
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Now, let us get on topic.
How fast was life expectancy rising in the 8 years before 2009 and how fast in the 8 years since? It is liberals who frequently use life expectancy stats when measuring us against other nations.
When the War on Poverty began in 1965 the rapidly dropping poverty rate suddenly stabilized.
If Obamacare is saving lives the statistics should show it.
How about you quote it or provide a link?
Some things to consider:
1. Which county you live in can make a difference of 20 years.
2. The majority of the lifespan gains have gone to the wealthier.
20 MILLION people with insurance who would otherwise not. Read the CBO where they say how many are saved.
So whats the deal with last years drop? Oddly enough many thought it was the growing gap in wealth inequality. I'm suspicious of that, because early data from the last few quarters indicate it was a one time blip. Same thing for trying to blame it on the ACA. Because that at least we DO have data and research on.
Most of us require preventative care to avoid emergent, potentially irreversible health crises. Many need care for preexisting conditions through no fault of their own. No insurance = no healthcare, certain death, reduced, quality of life or bankruptcy. In this country there is no separation of the two.
There is no justification for this slapdash gutted "insurance" that is Trumpcare.
Eh, I felt the same way about Obamacare. It's all the same crap. It's insurance companies trying to twiddle you out of your healthcare. I was hoping for a change regarding that fact but nope. Maybe next time. It's all the same cream, just a different flavor. Why does it even matter anymore.
My new health insurance is just like my old one. Take two fingers and cross them tightly.
Between 2003 and 2009 life expectancy in the USA went up by 1.35 years. Between 2009 and 2015 life expectancy grew by 0.45 years. People are now living approximately one less year thanks to Obamacare.
At the height of the AIDS epidemic (1982-1988) life expectancy went up a mere 0.41 years. Obamacare is not quite as bad as AIDS but pretty close.
Between 2003 and 2009 life expectancy in the USA went up by 1.35 years. Between 2009 and 2015 life expectancy grew by 0.45 years. People are now living approximately one less year thanks to Obamacare.
At the height of the AIDS epidemic (1982-1988) life expectancy went up a mere 0.41 years. Obamacare is not quite as bad as AIDS but pretty close.
Let's repeal it.
Or you could look at the side by side comparison that I provided about the ACA expansion.
You know, a actual comparison between apples to apples.
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