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Old 05-08-2017, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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I am sure this has been posted but it is pretty hard to say the nation has turned away from the democratic party when they won the popular vote in the last election.
^This.
And remember it's not over till the fat lady sings, as the saying goes.
There are many more elections ahead....it will be interesting to see the future elections and how
things turn out, five or ten years from now.
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Old 05-08-2017, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Dems are a boat without a rudder or life jackets just flailing about. No vision, no plan, no candidates.
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Old 05-08-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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One reason is that the Democratic Party has become everything it once loathed and was against...elitist, globalist, interventionist, self-serving, warmongering and overflowing with hubris.. In years past, the Democratic Party presented itself as the party of "the working people" against the business interests of banks and corporations.

The current version of the Democratic Party has embraced big banks, financiers, billionaires and corporations, cozying up to Big Money for hundreds of millions in campaign contributions and Super-PAC funding.

As for supporting "the working people"--Hillary's comment about "deplorables" summed up the unspoken view of the Democratic Party elites.

Of Two Minds - Why the Democrats Can't Let Go of Losing


The Democratic Party Won by 3 million Votes over Repúblicans, try Mathematics, they are usefull.
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Old 05-08-2017, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Boston
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We need the democrats! Hillary will be president again. Bless her soul! We need our rights protected. Trump and these right wingers are coming in trying to take women's healthcare and turn us into baby machines. We need universal healthcare and Medicaid for all. The states have gotten so greedy with their money, they have cut back food stamps and my healthcare to the point, I have to borrow money from my brother.
you should beg on the street instead of your burdening your family.
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Old 05-08-2017, 04:41 PM
 
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Yes, exactly. You can say the nation turned away from the Democratic Party IF YOU DISREGARD THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT STATES IN THE COUNTRY.

Now, if anybody in Washington wants to free NY and CA from the this hell-hole of a union, I'm all ears.
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That's part of the problem, they think they are the most important and to hell with everyone else in the country. Making no attempt to hide their arrogance and then they audacity to come ask for our vote

They were so arrogant they thought we were bagged.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:02 PM
 
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[quote=jackwinkelman;48084943]Trump understood the middle class and working class was being ignored by both parties. The democrats only concern was more handouts to the welfare class.

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In fairness, Dems also wanted perverts to be able to use bathrooms with children.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:04 PM
 
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Yes, exactly. You can say the nation turned away from the Democratic Party IF YOU DISREGARD THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT STATES IN THE COUNTRY.

Now, if anybody in Washington wants to free NY and CA from the this hell-hole of a union, I'm all ears.
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NY will be bankrupt within 20 years. It also loses electoral vote every census-down to 4th, after being 2nd for decades before it taxed folks away.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:06 PM
 
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NY will be bankrupt within 20 years. It also loses electoral vote every census-down to 4th, after being 2nd for decades before it taxed folks away.
That must be why its population has grown every year. All those people fleeing.

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New York City is the most populous city in the United States, with an estimated 8,491,079 people living in the city, according to U.S. Census estimates dating July 1, 2014 (up from 8,175,133 in 2010; 8.0 million in 2000; and 7.3 million in 1990).
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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One reason is that the Democratic Party has become everything it once loathed and was against...elitist, globalist, interventionist, self-serving, warmongering and overflowing with hubris.. In years past, the Democratic Party presented itself as the party of "the working people" against the business interests of banks and corporations.

The current version of the Democratic Party has embraced big banks, financiers, billionaires and corporations, cozying up to Big Money for hundreds of millions in campaign contributions and Super-PAC funding.

As for supporting "the working people"--Hillary's comment about "deplorables" summed up the unspoken view of the Democratic Party elites.

Of Two Minds - Why the Democrats Can't Let Go of Losing
They didn't.

Most Americans who bothered to vote (just based on President) voted Democrat.

Interventionist and warmongering? You must be living in an alternate reality. Personally, I think we SHOULD have gotten involved in Syria in a bigger way. It didn't take a Republican long to do that. About the only thing acheived in the first 100 days for Trump was escalating US involvement in Syria. Remember the last Republican President? He just invaded a country for no reason, destabilized a region, and we're still in that mess and can't seem to get out, "mission accomplished" for a Republican, I suppose.

Elitist? Bush vs Bill Clinton. Obama vs Trump. You're not even talking stripes of elitism. Trump and Bush were born into the elite class. Bill Clinton and Obama were not. Trump may talk in a way that appeals to the rubes. That doesn't mean he's not an elitist. He very much is. So much so that his net worth is higher than cumulative total of the net worth of every President that came before him. I'm not into class warfare to begrudge him for being wealthy but I can acknowledge the fact that he's part of the extraordinarily wealthy elite that few recent Presidents can claim membership in. JFK is really it. Bush and H.W. Bush were both of the elite but not to the same extent Trump is. Neither Obama or Bill Clinton were.

If you're so blinded by your partisan zeal you don't realize big banks and financiers buy both parties, there's not much to talk about. You'll continue spouting nonsense and raging against the imaginary liberal threat and soaking the crap you're spoonfed. It's really exactly what both parties want. As long as we're distracted by imaginary enemies and towing the line it really doesn't matter who they are. Could be commies under the bed, or Republitard/*******s.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:25 PM
 
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That's part of the problem, they think they are the most important and to hell with everyone else in the country. Making no attempt to hide their arrogance and then they audacity to come ask for our vote

They were so arrogant they thought we were bagged.

You have to admit there is a lot of truth behind that sentiment.

People don't realize that solving CA and NY's problems is the key to make the entire nation go.
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