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Old 05-08-2017, 06:27 PM
 
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NY will be bankrupt within 20 years. It also loses electoral vote every census-down to 4th, after being 2nd for decades before it taxed folks away.

Even if that's true, so what?

I thought Trumpeters have bought into this idea that filing for bankruptcies is what "smart business do" and no big deal.

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Old 05-08-2017, 06:54 PM
 
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Even if that's true, so what?

I thought Trumpeters have bought into this idea that filing for bankruptcies is what "smart business do" and no big deal.

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Not for states. Unfortunately I see no sane NY governor on the horizon to stop the carnage.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:58 PM
 
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The nation hasn't. Don't interpret low turnout, or lack of an immediately brilliant candidate with "turning away."

Of course, it would be nice if both parties were more responsive to constituents.
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:07 PM
 
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Because they listened to the extreme fringes of the party, that's why. Most Democrats are not "coastal elitists" and do not believe the loony stuff. We believe in good health care for all, opportunities, equality, clean air and environment. We do not like war (and we are not thrilled with Trump and his war mongering) and we want illegals gone but are not in favor of an actual stupid wall. We don't favor one religion over another and we don't believe religions should preach politics--separation of church and state! My church talks about God and love, not how to vote.

So it's because they were influenced by the far left and also that they actually believed the lies of the far right. Most of us are scattered around in different areas of the middle, not far left or far right. So any future candidate who wants to win, should appeal to the people in the middle who have been forgotten.
Not bad
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Trump understood the middle class and working class was being ignored by both parties. The democrats only concern was more handouts to the welfare class.
I can agree that Hillary was not best for America, Bernie was. That said, I couldn't vote for that two-faced son of a jackal Trump.

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HRC was paid by Wall St for speeches and almost all their donations went to her. Trump never said he would not bring in Wall St execs into his cabinet. Where is the lie?
No but he stands a hypocrite none the less. Rule number one of politics, don't mock a dirty cage when your's is no better. Trump did just that. He drained the swamp alright, just to help corporations like the banks.

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Using foreign labor overseas? Is that not what is overseas, foreign labor?
He was not for the American worker at all. If you believe he was, you were lied to, a fool or both. I don't want mock posters but Trump policy don't help American people.
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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In fairness, Dems also wanted perverts to be able to use bathrooms with children.
And you have no grasp on transsexuals.They aren't "perverts" but rather people with a mental issue. Mentally they are a woman but physically a male and want to be in their real body. They aren't cross-dressing for fetish at all. Closed minded fools like you disgust me.
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:35 PM
 
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And you have no grasp on transsexuals.They aren't "perverts" but rather people with a mental issue. Mentally they are a woman but physically a male and want to be in their real body. They aren't cross-dressing for fetish at all. Closed minded fools like you disgust me.
And for every one of them, 9 perverts would use the same "bathroom you feel like using today law" to molest kids.

Idiots oblivious to that reality disgust me.

Your party lost over 1,000 state and DC seats due to your attitude, which like the party, is out of touch with mainstream America.

Enjoy being part of the minority party.
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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And for every one of them, 9 perverts would use the same "bathroom you feel like using today law" to molest kids.

Idiots oblivious to that reality disgust me.

Your party lost over 1,000 state and DC seats due to your attitude, which like the party, is out of touch with mainstream America.

Enjoy being part of the minority party.
Idiots usng obvious strawman arguments totally disgust me. You know in your heart that is scare tactic and not true. A perverted man don't need to dread as a woman to e're a woman's room.

I don't have a party, I'm an independent. I voted McCain in '08 and Romney in '12 and voted mostly Republican down ticket those years. By '14, I realized the Republicans didn't have the answers. I vote Republican in primaries here. My problem with Republicans are the Republican candidates we are given who are so far to the right socially that I cannot in good conscious vote them in or are hypocrites. Trump was that and now Sen Jeff Flake of AZ has proven to be. I will never vote for them.

NOTE: I voted Rep Ann Kirkpatrick for Senate over Sen John McCain due to McCain's age in 16. I was satisfied until I saw that Betsy DeVos cashed in her campaign donation for his vote in her Senate confirmation.

So yeah keep telling yourself that my side lost. I don't have a side except America. The America we have isn't my America.
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:51 PM
 
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To avoid looking at their reflection honestly, humans project their own failures and destructive traits onto others, blaming others for their own faults. They justify their self-serving actions, and deny responsibility for their clearly self-destructive behaviors.
You MUST be talking about Trump!!
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:55 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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And for every one of them, 9 perverts would use the same "bathroom you feel like using today law" to molest kids.

Idiots oblivious to that reality disgust me.

Your party lost over 1,000 state and DC seats due to your attitude, which like the party, is out of touch with mainstream America.

Enjoy being part of the minority party.
Seems to me we should be more worried about republican politicians when it comes to bathroom issues.

Dennis Hastert anyone? Or Larry Craig? Mark Foley?

THAT KIND of man is who we need to be worried about.
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