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Old 05-08-2017, 06:32 AM
 
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Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie View Post
No way. This is because there are too many people who pretty strongly feel they should not be required to pay for anybody's health care other than their own.

Then those people should immediately stop TAXING OTHERS to SUBSIDIZE their employer-paid HC benefits.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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It's your right to get healthcare but not a right to expect the government to give it to you.





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Do you consider healthcare a basic human right?
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:37 AM
 
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Reagan's move I fully agree with. I would prefer people work, as in most cases, they will get quality employer insurance just as I am sure we both do, by earning it.

??? ??? ??? ??? ??? I have worked for 30 years and have never had employer insurance. Why should my taxes subsidize the quality employer insurance you have?
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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so how are those services being paid for? If your hospital a government run hospital?






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The hospital I work (as with all non-profit hospitals) already serves all, regardless of ability to pay, so your point is moot. The only thing that would change in a Medicaid-for-all system would be compensation for those services to the facility and providers, which would bring down healthcare costs. And of course, providing for that preventative care which keeps people out of the hospital in the first place, one of the main tenants of the ACA.

and I guess you don't care that the premiums on the ACA are un-affordable?
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:38 AM
 
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It's your right to get healthcare but not a right to expect the government to give it to you.

Is it my right to NOT subsidize the employer-paid healthcare other taxpayers get?
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:41 AM
 
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Who is threatening violence onto you? Explain

What is VIOLENT about universal healthcare? Do tell
Universal health would be funded by taxes. If you don't pay what tax is claimed, men with guns will kidnap and cage you.
And for any health care worker who would refuse to treat, the same fate awaits.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:42 AM
 
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Think you meant " walk the talk"


As for me, I have no issues with taxes going towards Universal Healthcare ( which does not automatically mean Single Payer) for people who take reasonable responsibility for their own health. By this I mean weight control, no smoking and no recreational substances.

I also believe EVERYONE should contribute a fixed percentage of their gross income towards healthcare.

We have politicians and media who feed off them attempting to persuade us there is a Muslim under every bed and ignore that most people will die of heart disease and Cancer and never be involved in an Act of Terrorism.

Even people with poverty-level income? Good luck collecting.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:43 AM
 
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Can't forget something as important as food either!

Congress has not forgotten food. Ever heard of food stamps?
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:44 AM
 
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Yes provided you don't make other people pay for your stuff.

In short, take care of your own and not depend on society to take care of you.

Got employer-provided insurance?
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:48 AM
 
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Wrong. My property taxes pay for the trucks that I as a volunteer use to fight fires.

Fuel excise taxes when I fuel my plane pay for my use of air traffic control when I fly my plane as do you when you buy a ticket. I have a well, I pay for my testing, not you.

So I am paying my way.

Are you?

Pay for your own stuff.

In 36 states (according to the Lincoln Land Institute), property taxes are higher on rental property than on owner-occupied homes of equal value.

Looks like most homeowners are NOT paying their fair share of property taxes.
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