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Old 05-08-2017, 10:55 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Do you consider healthcare a basic human right?
No. It's a product just like cable TV.
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Old 05-08-2017, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Do you consider healthcare a basic human right?
do you have a right to go see a doctor.....sure you do

you also have a right( or requirement) to pay that doctor for the service rendered

health insurance(either private or government) is not care.... insurance is never about care...its about risk management and paying over time for someone else to pay your bill
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Old 05-08-2017, 10:57 AM
 
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Because profiteers are capitalizing on people's sorrows.
Some body ALWAYS profit from others sorrows.

The tow truck driver

The paid firemen

The paid EMT's

The people who sell plywood before a hurricne.

The people who sell snow shovels before a big snowstorm.

The people who run body and fender repair shops after every storm.

The people who sell milk, toilet paper, etc. before a big storm

The list is VERY long.

It is A fact of life.
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Old 05-08-2017, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Originally Posted by SaigonPaisa View Post
Well hell, people could do many things.

I could win the lottery. I could marry a 300 pound woman.

Those things are not happening. Just like no one is paying for public infrastructure and emergency services nor public education.

Healthcare is expensive due to

1) For profit

2) Corruption

3) Collusion

4) Greed
Oh I'm not arguing that.

I'm just saying that we don't need government to provide all those things .

Again, public services are not an all or nothing proposition that are dependant on government. And progressive types who like to think that this is the case are promoting a false narrative.

Government was never meant to be your Mommy .
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Old 05-08-2017, 11:00 AM
 
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How did America get so many heartless and mindless people, its as we are still infected with the mentality as the likes of people who lived back in the 1600-1800's who supported enslaving other people.

It would have been nice if such types had died out, but that "infection" was just transferred from generation to generations, and this is predominantly the "not good" segment of white society who is of this mad craziness. They live with the mentality of a Barbarian Hoarder.

It will take a stand by the "good spirited" and humane respecting white people, to stand up and combat the vile mentality of the bigots and racist who give Good Spirited white people a bad name and image. There are many Good Spirit and Humane Loving white people who are tired of being lumped with this bunch of Confederate Antebellum Seeking Foolish White People,who always push some self centered madness, and try to wrap it in their greed and self consumption twisted logic..

Maybe as I once read, that these types are like the Cave Dweller from Europe's Cold Climate, whom developed a HOARDING INSTINCT, and these people have never evolved beyond that mentality.

Some of these comments by such types continue to pop up, only serve to insult this nation. No Foreign Nations wants to hear American talk anything about Human Rights, when Trump as President HAS EXPOSED the mass of Un-Christian, In-Humane Types. They love money and that is all they worship.. If they loose all their money, they'd be likely to start killing people because the one thing they value most is gone.
They are the prime examples of why such phrases as Evil White Man, has persisted over all these Centuries and Decades.

The best thing Good Spirited Humane Respecting White people can do for themselves, is not to entwine themselves with these others types. Their evil is so deeply embedded until they are a danger. Keep ones guard up, and know when you encounter racist, bigots and vain greed chasers, that they are "dangerous" and more animal like than they are human like in their outcome of their attitudes and actions. Some of them may never evolve to live in a civil social society.

Guarantee right this minute, there are some anguished to no end, because they are exposed, and they can't seek and gain people to covert to their brand of ignorance.
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Old 05-08-2017, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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The only ones using the word "free" are the ones against it.

It is NOT steal if i WANT to give that money

And again, if you believe paying taxes is being robbed, what the hell are you doing living in society?


Go live in the woods, make your house out of trees and plant your own food!

Or stop making that ridiculous argument!
*SNORT*

You nailed it, here. But most of these faux rugged individualist types wouldn't last 24 hours going it alone, in the city, let alone in the wildnerness. They possess neither the knowledge nor the physical and mental fortitude to accomplish any of the tasks you suggest.

And they know it.

They're often the very same types as the armchair warriors in this country -- those who are all for America entering yet more war and "righteously" reclaiming its global power -- but who are too out-of-shape and chickenshi* to ever enlist to help serve the country they claim to love.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: they're complete, utter frauds.
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Old 05-08-2017, 11:02 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Some body ALWAYS profit from others sorrows.

The tow truck driver

The paid firemen

The paid EMT's

The people who sell plywood before a hurricne.

The people who sell snow shovels before a big snowstorm.

The people who run body and fender repair shops after every storm.

The people who sell milk, toilet paper, etc. before a big storm

The list is VERY long.

It is A fact of life.
You forgot the undertaker.

Yes, and it's a wise entrepreneur who goes into a business with such demand, or takes advantage of the market conditions to maximize their profit. That is, after all, the reason for going into business. medical insurance, like auto, home, renters or life is business like any other, meant to generate profit.
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Old 05-08-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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Oh I'm not arguing that.

I'm just saying that we don't need government to provide all those things .

Again, public services are not an all or nothing proposition that are dependant on government. And progressive types who like to think that this is the case are promoting a false narrative.

Government was never meant to be your Mommy .
Unless we want to live in the stone age or like in primitive villages in the middle of nowhere we do need the government to provide those things because no one is gonna do those things out of the gracious of their heart.
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Old 05-08-2017, 11:07 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Socialism was forced on them by stealth. We aren't that dumb. Also, prior to mass Muslim immigration those countries were relatively homogeneous and most people had a similar work ethic. We have always been a diverse country with different cultures and different attitudes towards work. Socialism works where most people start out equal. Once redistribution starts mayhem begins. Look at Europe today.
Good God. Is this a serious post?

Where in the world do you come up with the idea that you're a "left-wing Democrat"?
It's a very serious post. In a democracy most people don't want more than a minor amount of redistribution of the fruits of their labor to others. I am a left-wing Democrat in the sense that I favor rights for minorities, women, gays etc. for equality of opportunity. I am in favor of public works that benefit everyone. I am in favor of fully funding schools and courts, thinking both to be underfunded.

I am generally pro-environment though I don't believe in global warming. I favor reintroduction of wolves to Yellowstone. And just yesterday I patted the head of an animal that was 97% wolf biologically.
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Old 05-08-2017, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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And others cost me money when they have unprotected sex and have kids they can't afford..

But me suggesting that they should be responsible for their own procreation is usually met with accusations of sexisim/racism etc from people like you.

Pot meet kettle.
Stabbing in the dark now, are ya? Nice try. But you're very, very mistaken.

If you've read my posts with any ability to read between the lines, it should be clear that I'm all about people pushing their own weight -- IF it is in their power to do so. The very young, the frail, the sick, the elderly cannot take care of themselves. It is our duty as a civilized "Christian" society to do so. With open hearts. And I say that, by the way, as someone who never calls herself a Christian.

But anyone else has NO excuses. That includes all of you fraudulent rugged individualists.
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