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View Poll Results: Can Trump nominate a new, impartial FBI director to investigate him now?
Yes 79 29.81%
No 186 70.19%
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Old 05-18-2017, 05:41 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Good - couldn't be more pleased. That said, no one is gunning for Trump. He started the whole entire mess with his
BIG MOUTH, LIES, NAMECALLING AND ADOLESCENT TWEETS - and put the CHERRY ON TOP WHEN HE FIRED COMEY.
What a crook. No sympathy here. He deserves to be drawn and quartered for his outrageousness over the last year and half and what he is putting the country through.

Further, so what if Mueller's firm was oppo to what he is investigating now? It is IMPOSSIBLE to find ANY large law firm where there are NOT conflicts. That is why these firms set up CHINESE WALLS - discussed ad nauseum on other threads on this board.
Good! So are you now going to hush up and wait for the end of the process or keep on bleating about how much you think he's guilty of X or Y?
Hopefully this investigation will shut down all this carping and bleating on BOTH sides until it runs its course as it does nobody any good to continue.

 
Old 05-18-2017, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Good! So are you now going to hush up and wait for the end of the process or keep on bleating about how much you think he's guilty of X or Y?
Hopefully this investigation will shut down all this carping and bleating on BOTH sides until it runs its course as it does nobody any good to continue.
lol and did you ever shut up during the endless investigations of Hillary Clinton, or is that somehow 'different'? I certainly won't shut up, I will talk about this every day until Orange Man packs his bags and moves out of the White House.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 06:59 PM
 
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lol and did you ever shut up during the endless investigations of Hillary Clinton, or is that somehow 'different'? I certainly won't shut up, I will talk about this every day until Orange Man packs his bags and moves out of the White House.
And then for a couple weeks afterwards as the right goes more insane.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Maxine Waters is on TV right now saying Trump can pull a Nixon and fire Mueller, too. Ha......would he dare?? Trump knows no boundaries - so anything is possible.
Maxine Waters is bonkers!
 
Old 05-18-2017, 11:07 PM
 
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One must first understand why Trump is " a lame duck" and who's short record has been "rather ineffectual". Could it be the constant "unnamed sources" and the constant bleat from the left calling him everything but a pedofile and the MSM parroting if not starting all of the bleating?

This whole special prosecutor and Comey mess could get very,very interesting for both sides as this special prosecutor knife can cut both ways...
It's going to be fun watching both parties eat their own, waiting for the guns and knives to come out on the floor of Congress...
it is pretty obvious that leaks are coming from his own people. Why didn't Obama have this problem?

Regarding the "leaks", Tweeting that someone (Comey) should find and stop the leakers is the stupidest thing that he could have done. By calling for an investigation into leakers, he has validated that the leaks are accurate! Any politician with a brain would have dismissec the leaks as falsehoods and fixed the problem internally. His emphasis on stopping them, reveals their veracity. Very stupid move!
 
Old 05-18-2017, 11:11 PM
 
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So, you have facts as in PROOF to back up your assertions about his "contacts with Russia" and that "illegals voting" didn't happen? Also, if when you speak of the crowd size thing are you speaking about the inauguration? If so you're right, he was wrong about that but don't you think the rest of your complaints are either A.Not proven B. Petty beyond belief?

I would also ask, did you or do you support Hillary? The reason I ask is if one were to be honest she has many if not all of the faults you ascribe to Trump.
I would agree that Trump keeps shooting himself in the foot and most certainly wish someone would stomp on his phone or tape his fingers together.
If one were to be honest we were given two poor choices by the party loyalists.
Actually the ONUS is on the person who floats the idea to provide proof. He has been asked repeatedly to provide proof on illegal voting and wiretaps and crowd sizes and many other things and NADA. He just changes the subject.

Jim, if you floated an assertion and were challenged, would you not attempt to provide some sort of evidence?

Why don't you provide evidence of widespread voter fraud on the scale that might influence a national election? Fraud that only is working against The Donald. And I do not mean some right wing oped piece.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 05:05 AM
 
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Actually the ONUS is on the person who floats the idea to provide proof. He has been asked repeatedly to provide proof on illegal voting and wiretaps and crowd sizes and many other things and NADA. He just changes the subject.
There are many independent organizations that have done the research on voter fraud including illegals voting. There is sufficient proof that this is a problem. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

As for "wiretaps," there is no longer a question if the Trump team was being surveilled in order to sabotage his campaign. After the election, the surveillance continued of his Transition Team.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 06:59 AM
 
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There are many independent organizations that have done the research on voter fraud including illegals voting. There is sufficient proof that this is a problem. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
then by all means share this sufficient proof with the rest of us
 
Old 05-19-2017, 07:00 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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lol and did you ever shut up during the endless investigations of Hillary Clinton, or is that somehow 'different'? I certainly won't shut up, I will talk about this every day until Orange Man packs his bags and moves out of the White House.
Why? Isn't the Special Investigator or Counsel which is EXACTLY what was clamored for good enough? What are you going to do if it comes back and says "Nothing to see here"? Slit your wrists or light yourself on fire on the White House lawn?

At what point do you realize what you are doing has no end game?
 
Old 05-19-2017, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Why? Isn't the Special Investigator or Counsel which is EXACTLY what was clamored for good enough? What are you going to do if it comes back and says "Nothing to see here"? Slit your wrists or light yourself on fire on the White House lawn?

At what point do you realize what you are doing has no end game?
Good post..now apply everything in it to Clinton E-mails, Benghazi and Trump's tweets about Obama wiretapping his campaign.

BTW..I'm on record as thinking that the appointment of the Special Counsel is, in fact, enough for now....

Just give him room to work..cooperation from all parties..and some time.
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