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Old 05-13-2017, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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No, what's tiring is that every time we point out either the Democrats' hypocrisy or the Democrats similar actions, you people cry "deflection."
Exactly! Trying to figure out the extreme hypocrisy of the left is just maddening.

Remember the utter outrage from the left when O'Rilley made fun of Maxine Waters hair? Now compare that to Colberts profane and disgusting tyraide against the sitting President? Libs loved it.
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Old 05-13-2017, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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His executive orders regarding travel bans wouldn't be repeatedly shot down if they were crafted to pass constitutional muster in the first place. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here, in assuming that you do care about the US Constitution.

Ah, yes, the dreaded court-stopped Executive Orders regarding immigration.
I wonder if you know how many times obama, clinton, and bush used EXACTLY the same law (8USC1182) to write very similar Executive Orders, and had NO problems with the courts?
I do know. I could tell you, but you probably don't really care to hear it. You can google it if you are interested. The FACTS make the whiners and the courts look incredibly stupid!
HINT: It really has little or nothing to do with the Constitution, it has more to do with Federal LAW, and powers granted to the President by Congress a LONG time ago!
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Old 05-13-2017, 01:18 PM
 
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So the attorney general recommended firing the FBI director, which the President did. This was summer of 1993 and Janet Reno, the attorney general, recommended firing Sessions, who was promptly fired. ( after this, Reno was busy approving the raid on a Waco compound).

Surprisingly, the department of justice and FBI have been and still are under the Executive Branch of governmwent and serve under the President. Congress, which has both the Senate and House run by Republics who control the Legislative branch of government.

Point is that Congress, even a Republican congress that was won by more Republicans voted in than Democrats, merely approves nominations. Congress doesn't canvas for new nominees, they don't nominate; they simply vote to approve nominees. Clearly explained in this helpful link:

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/...-fbis-director

Why do democrats not understand that the Executive branch works under the current ( yes, current) President of the United States?
They have a psychological problem whenever Trump exerts any type of authority as the President of the U.S.

It's also an element of ignorance.

It's quite sad really just how bad it's gotten despite the claims of them being so "educated".
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Old 05-13-2017, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Really? Please, show us proof that leaders around the world respect President Two Scoops (other than Mother Russia, since we know he's in bed with them). And why on earth would he not have Congress or court support? Both branches have Republican/conservative majorities. The court is conservative because he appointed Neil Gorsuch, remember? The fact that he can't get anything accomplished despite having majority colleagues from his own party volumes about him, and it isn't good.
You don't give Trump enough credit. Dude's a regular miracle worker. On April 13, 2017 he claimed that US-Russian relations "may be at an all time low."

Then lo and behold, exactly a month later he is pallin' around with the Russian Prime Minister and the Russian Ambassador in the White House............

True statesman that Donald Trump is...........
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Old 05-13-2017, 01:36 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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With the ridiculous Democrats and the left, there will always be some kind of investigation.


Wow, I didn't even read the rest of this post. Talk about investigations! I think the Clintons have been under 'investigation' for the past 30 years! Cons just can't let go!
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Old 05-13-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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With the ridiculous Democrats and the left, there will always be some kind of investigation. You think this investigation will be the last? They literally will be looking for every and anything to call for an investigation of Trump on. Remember, they are in "resistance."

Fact is, if Trump were to only do things that the Dems/Left approve of, he literally wouldn't be able to do anything. You Trump haters are so ridiculous and what's even more outrageous is that many of you haters don't even realize how ridiculous you guys are.
Gee, I see how you conveniently forgot about the last 8 years under Obama when Republicans were constantly investigating Obama or Hillary for every little thing they did.
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Old 05-13-2017, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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So the attorney general recommended firing the FBI director, which the President did. This was summer of 1993 and Janet Reno, the attorney general, recommended firing Sessions, who was promptly fired. ( after this, Reno was busy approving the raid on a Waco compound).

Surprisingly, the department of justice and FBI have been and still are under the Executive Branch of governmwent and serve under the President. Congress, which has both the Senate and House run by Republics who control the Legislative branch of government.

Point is that Congress, even a Republican congress that was won by more Republicans voted in than Democrats, merely approves nominations. Congress doesn't canvas for new nominees, they don't nominate; they simply vote to approve nominees. Clearly explained in this helpful link:

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/...-fbis-director

Why do democrats not understand that the Executive branch works under the current ( yes, current) President of the United States?
Both the FBI and Dept. of Justice are also mandated to be independent.
Independence is vital, as both are charged with the responsibility of investigating criminal offenses committed by government officials, crimes committed by officials in the District of Columbia, and the prosecution of those crimes has to be done by an independent Justice Department.

That's why the Senate has the powers to form independent investigation committees of its own. They are the cops who watch the cops. It's part of our checks and balances, and those checks keep corruption from taking over any of those separate branches of our government.

And others like the White House as well. If someone wants to turn a democracy into a dictatorship, corrupting the nation's professional investigators and the Justice Department is the place to start. That's exactly where Hitler began his rise, along with dozens of other dictators.

Once the law is only what the leader says it is, and gets his way with it, democracy crumbles.
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Old 05-13-2017, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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There was plenty of reason for oblunder to fire him when he came forward as Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigations stating


1. He is not a Prosecutor
He was the head of the Federal Bureau of Investigations. That isn't for him to decide.
So is Loretta Lynch or Sally Yates made the same decision you would have been satisfied. Try to be a little honest, you wanted Comey to make the call because you trusted him until you didn't get the answer you wanted.


Besides, that was months ago so what was the reason for firing. Firing an FBI director is a pretty big deal so what's the reasoning here, something from July.
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Old 05-13-2017, 06:17 PM
 
Location: PSL
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So is Loretta Lynch or Sally Yates made the same decision you would have been satisfied. Try to be a little honest, you wanted Comey to make the call because you trusted him until you didn't get the answer you wanted.


Besides, that was months ago so what was the reason for firing. Firing an FBI director is a pretty big deal so what's the reasoning here, something from July.
Nope in the medical profession he'd be cited for practicing out of scope and he should also face indictment for obstruction of justice. After all his words were posted. His subjective opinion does not determine a verdict based on Intent. I gave examples of intent.

As for Lynch meeting with Bill... haha sure she would have been prosecuted...


You are better than that... even if you are a demonrat
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Old 05-13-2017, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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So the attorney general recommended firing the FBI director, which the President did. This was summer of 1993 and Janet Reno, the attorney general, recommended firing Sessions, who was promptly fired. ( after this, Reno was busy approving the raid on a Waco compound).

Surprisingly, the department of justice and FBI have been and still are under the Executive Branch of governmwent and serve under the President. Congress, which has both the Senate and House run by Republics who control the Legislative branch of government.

Point is that Congress, even a Republican congress that was won by more Republicans voted in than Democrats, merely approves nominations. Congress doesn't canvas for new nominees, they don't nominate; they simply vote to approve nominees. Clearly explained in this helpful link:

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/...-fbis-director

Why do democrats not understand that the Executive branch works under the current ( yes, current) President of the United States?
So....what's your point?
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