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Old 05-13-2017, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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You really must have some stones to bring up lies during this administration.
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Old 05-13-2017, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central FL
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During the Obama administration they did not raise SS income or the raise was minimal, then they raised the cost of medicare. For many it was a wash. This not only effects people currently on SS but it also effects future recipients.
The laws for SS Cola's and increases in Medicare premiums were passed in 1982. Blame Reagan.
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Old 05-13-2017, 07:28 AM
 
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The laws for SS Cola's and increases in Medicare premiums were passed in 1982. Blame Reagan.
Premiums rise in 2016

Medicare beneficiaries who have Part B premiums withheld from their Social Security checks—about 70% of beneficiaries—will continue to pay $104.90 per month for Part B. If you aren’t collecting Social Security yet or will enroll in Medicare in 2016, you will have to pay $121.80 per month in 2016. The $121.80 monthly premium also applies to people who are eligible for both Medicare and Medicaid and have their premiums paid for by their state. And if your income exceeds certain limits, you’ll pay more—from $170.50 to $389.80 per month

Medicare Part B Premiums in 2016
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Old 05-13-2017, 07:30 AM
 
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You really must have some stones to bring up lies during this administration.
So while my premiums doubled (now paying over $900 a month) because of Democrats, I should just give Democrats a pass?
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Old 05-13-2017, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central FL
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Premiums rise in 2016

Medicare beneficiaries who have Part B premiums withheld from their Social Security checks—about 70% of beneficiaries—will continue to pay $104.90 per month for Part B. If you aren’t collecting Social Security yet or will enroll in Medicare in 2016, you will have to pay $121.80 per month in 2016. The $121.80 monthly premium also applies to people who are eligible for both Medicare and Medicaid and have their premiums paid for by their state. And if your income exceeds certain limits, you’ll pay more—from $170.50 to $389.80 per month

Medicare Part B Premiums in 2016
These premiums rise according to laws passed decades ago. Why not ask your GOP Congress that's in charge now, to do something about it.
Fat chance as these repubs hate SS and hate Medicare. They want them to fail. Read Ryan's plan...privatize SS and put Medicare on a voucher system.
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Old 05-13-2017, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Texas Progressive
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Some of us have clarity of thought to understand that SS is supposed to be just one source of income of the multiple sources of income in retirement.
So if Republicans decide the answer is to cut your retirement by say 30 percent, you're good with that? I have saved for retirement and believe I am in better shape than at least 3/4 of Americans but a 30 percent cut in SS pay-out would cause me some pain. For many folks it would drastically effect their quality of life. Paul Ryan still is very focused on getting rid of Social Security. It surprises me that so few people consider this issue when voting.
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Old 05-13-2017, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central FL
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So while my premiums doubled (now paying over $900 a month) because of Democrats, I should just give Democrats a pass?
This is about SS, not health care. Even so, good luck with trumpcare! Hope you don't have any pre-existing conditions.
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Old 05-13-2017, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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So if Republicans decide the answer is to cut your retirement by say 30 percent, you're good with that? I have saved for retirement and believe I am in better shape than at least 3/4 of Americans but a 30 percent cut in SS pay-out would cause me some pain. For many folks it would drastically effect their quality of life. Paul Ryan still is very focused on getting rid of Social Security. It surprises me that so few people consider this issue when voting.
My sentiments exactly. Thank you for validating this thread.

We all need to show Congress that we are not asleep at the switch. If we doze off, they will try something.
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Old 05-13-2017, 07:56 AM
 
Location: The South
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You really must have some stones to bring up lies during this administration.
Just the facts, Ma'am.
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Old 05-13-2017, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Sitting on a bar stool. Guinness in hand.
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When Social Security was first introduced, life expectancy was a lot lower than it is today. It only had to cover people for an average of five years. Now, with people living well into their 80s and sometimes 90s, yes, this program is in trouble.
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Something needs to be done, but considering what Republicans have done to repeal ACA, I wouldn't trust them to revamp Social Security. As it is, we're going to see a lot of older homeless people in the next twenty years if safety nets aren't put into place.
Well may I ask. When SS retirement ages were guess at back when program was established. What kind of work was the average worker doing?
My thought would be that it would be more on the physical side. So age 55 at the time made sense for someone to retire because of wear and tear on the body. And as you said earlier average death. But now I think we are more of a knowledge ecomony, and our health care is to the point, That maybe even 72 is not high enough for a "complete" retirement age.
Perhaps we as a society need to take a hard relook at when Elderly people as a group can and can't make a meaningful contribution in the modern work enviroment. And come up with a revamping of the SS system.

Of course all of society will probably need to take on a new mindset toward the elderly in the workforce and the expectation of what retirement is to/for the elderly to make a revamping of a program like this work. Whether we can do that..is something that remains to be seen.....and is up to us all.
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