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Old 05-15-2017, 03:38 PM
 
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I'm already registered. I'm white. I am NOT going to go get another I.D. so I can vote and I am going to vote. There is no way to win this one for N. Carolina.



Can you reason what I just said above?
The ONLY ID you have is a voter ID card?
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Old 05-15-2017, 03:41 PM
 
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Nice try with that trite little right-wing talking point.

The NC state legislature explicitly requested data on which types of ID were most likely to be used by Black voters, then crafted the law specifically to exclude them.

Court: North Carolina Voter ID Law Targeted Black Voters | Election 2016 | FRONTLINE | PBS
NC can barely be called a democracy at this point. Senate GOP just stripped education funding from Democrats’ districts.

Read more here: NC Senate Republican cut education funding from Democrats
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Old 05-15-2017, 03:41 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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Love this thread for how it perfectly exemplifies the differences in political views. Let's review:

1. North Carolina Republicans ask for demographic information on when and where racial minorities, specifically black people, vote.
2. North Carolina legislature then crafts a voting law that specifically targets when and where those minorities vote, therefore engaging in blatant voter suppression based on race.
3. Liberals rightly call it blatant voter suppression and demand the law be retracted. Conservatives claim IDs are easy to get and said laws protect voting, but don't address how and why the NC law was formed whatsoever.
4. The NC law is repeatedly shot down as unconstitutional, liberals clearly vindicated, but conservatives still talk about the ease in which IDs are accessible, continuing to ignore the racism and underhanded, unconstitutional attack on voting access.
5. Liberals fight for the rights of all to vote, conservatives attempt to limit them, get caught red-handed, make excuses and then accuse liberals of being too sensitive.

Listen up conservatives: Regardless of how easy you think it is to get an ID to vote, a law specifically created to suppress the voting of a certain demographic is wrong. And illegal. Period. If you want to fight for IDs, this is definitely not the example to fly your banner.
You forgot the judges making the decision did not even listen to opposing evidence when the first decision was made. It was a political decision rather than a decision where facts could be presented. I feel justice has been raped in North Carolina. That statement just tips the iceberg as to how angry I am that we cannot have voter I. D. that assures that only citizens of this state and not dead people and illegal aliens and college students who are legal residents of other states pick our representatives.
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Old 05-15-2017, 03:44 PM
 
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YOU. ARE. BEING. DELIBERATELY. OBTUSE.

It has been documented that they asked for voting behaviors, based on race, and intentionally excluded the forms of ID most likely to be used by Black voters.
So, is ID only required in those districts or state wide?
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:44 PM
 
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The ONLY ID you have is a voter ID card?
It's the only one I need to vote. It's all I need to vote. You can't change the rules after the fact. You want me to get a new one next time I'm updated my D.L.? One probably could. If I don't drive? You aren't going to be able to force me to do anything.
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:46 PM
 
Location: My House
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What is the reason why minorities lack the mental capacity to do what whites can do?

Do you believe it's genetics or a cultural trend of not promoting deductive reasoning skills?
It's rural poverty. Nobody is stupid. They just lack access and advantages.
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:47 PM
 
Location: My House
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State was turning blue( like 2008), yes that was an embarrassment without a doubt.


on topic - voter ID does need to be required so that we dont end up with illiterate reps like Elijah Cummings-MD and Hank Johnson-GA
What was so embarrassing about not being backward hillbillies?
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:53 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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There's more to it than IDs, not that you'd know by listening to NC Republicans. In fact, the NC Republicans carefully looked at what types of State IDs were prevalent among Afrivcan-Americans and decided that those sort of IDs wouldn't do. Oh no, not at all.

Frankly, I wish I was curious as to why the NC Republicans requested and got statistics on voter behavior by race, then restricted specifically the behaviors prevalent among African-Americans - early voting, same-day registration and straight-ticket voting. Sadly, I am not curious at all, because their motives are so very transparent. As are yours.

Why do Republicans pull stunts like this? It makes me hate them - anyone who participates in voter suppression.

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I'm female. I was not in danger in the bathroom. Nor would I have been.

Not any more than I've ever been.

That bill was stupid.

Cooper didn't steal the election. McCrory sucks.
Oh Gawd! McCrory! What an a$$. I thought they were going to have to get a crane to remove him from the office.
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:02 PM
 
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So, is ID only required in those districts or state wide?
Reading is rewarding, you should try it.
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Old 05-16-2017, 04:36 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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I'm female. I was not in danger in the bathroom. Nor would I have been.

Not any more than I've ever been.

That bill was stupid.

Cooper didn't steal the election. McCrory sucks.


Couldn't rep you again, yet.
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