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Old 05-18-2017, 10:01 AM
 
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And his cult keep repeating......."This is the greatest witch hunt in history.....This is the greatest witch hunt in history...........This is the greatest........."

Gotta love them simple folk.

This video, featuring the man who ghost wrote his book, makes sense.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y_NKinzdPw

When Trump sees this getting too tough, or the handwriting on the wall, he will probably resign and then claim he is doing it for the good of the country , or some other such excuse.
And of course, it's gotta be the GREATEST witch hunt.

Hopefully he'll be bragging someday about being the most impeachable president ever! He got impeached faster any other president!
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:08 AM
 
Location: The 719
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Can't wait to see the list of reasons Democrats come up with to proclaim why this isn't good enough...

You didn't think you were waiting long, did you?

Just last night...

Pelosi, "He cannot take the place of a truly independent, outside commission that is completely free from the Trump Administration's meddling."

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Hell yeah!!!! Here we go, folks!

In public and on City Data, Trump supporters will scream that this is fake news and call liberals snowflakes for believing any of the Russian scandal allegations.

IN PRIVATE, these same Trump lovers are shaking in their boots and terrified that their Dear Leader might actually be involved in illegal activity.


Hmmm...

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Dude?! LOL

I am totally fine with letting this process play out. Folks on both sides are so certain about whether Trump is guilty or not. I personally think he is, ...Yet folks on both sides are completely convinced they know the truth. As if they were in the room when Trump met with Comey or they were in Trump's campaign headquarters during the election.


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They have done it at least 20 times now.

Counsel is not a prosecutor. Council is a lawyer. Nothing else. One that knows federal statue, policy and protocol. He just looks over the same facts that have already been looked over by the FBI, CIA and the NSA. Who all have said under oath, there is no collusion with the Russian Government, between anyone associated with the Trump campaign.
Council is not prosecutor, but here's the facts in this situation...

What are special counsel's powers?
- has all authority of U.S. Attorney
- can initiate investigations, subpoena records and bring criminal charges
- can choose to inform doj what they're up to
- before taking "significant" action, must notify AG

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As others have noted, the fact that Rosenstein appointed Mueller without involving or telling Trump is significant. In his new position on the inside, no doubt Rosenstein has seen the classified evidence that none of us are allowed to see. Rosenstein's choice and how he was announced tells us that he has seen some serious evidence indeed.
No, nice try. He was just following protocal and keeping Sessions off the hook for any wrongdoing there.

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Old 05-18-2017, 10:22 AM
 
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As others have noted, the fact that Rosenstein appointed Mueller without involving or telling Trump is significant. In his new position on the inside, no doubt Rosenstein has seen the classified evidence that none of us are allowed to see. Rosenstein's choice and how he was announced tells us that he has seen some serious evidence indeed.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Nice, France
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Yeah- I think he's arrogant enough to try it.

That is if he doesn't seek asylum in one of the countries he's visiting abroad this week, lol.
The thought of your president seeking asylum in Saudi Arabia is quite funny, actually


A question from a European and not that finely knowledgeable as per your institutions as some posters here :

What happens if THIS investigation goes nowhere? For whatever reason? As any rational person can foresee that he will keep on doing stupid things over stupid things, and it's only been 5 months, can impeachment process over impeachment process accumulate/succeed one after another?


EDA : however big is that mess you're in ( I mean ALL Americans), rest assured that most europeans are IMPRESSED with the way your institutions work and keep you from bigger messes. Thumbs up !

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Old 05-18-2017, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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As others have noted, the fact that Rosenstein appointed Mueller without involving or telling Trump is significant. In his new position on the inside, no doubt Rosenstein has seen the classified evidence that none of us are allowed to see. Rosenstein's choice and how he was announced tells us that he has seen some serious evidence indeed.
Agreed.

That 45 would tweet out how much of a witch-hunt he thinks it is instead of welcoming the investigation says everything that there is to say.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Let's call this for what it is... a coup. The government has decided that the people can't make the decision who should lead the country and who should be elected. Its them against the rest of us. You people hooting and jumping thinking your side is winning are sorely deluded. They look down on you just as much as the rest of us, even more.
So a person encouraging a hack into the other candidate's e-mail and potentially having team members help the nation he encouraged the back help him win, then firing the temp DA who questioned a compromised cabinet appointment and a FBI head who was actively investigating "the Russiah thing" as Trump put it, is a coup? That is breaking the law. That is a legal thing, not one of these conspiracies the pro-Trump people had over the Republicans.

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The Rule of Law is something trump and cons always talk about. Talk talk talk. But when the Rule of Law is invoked, it's a coup!?!?!?
Yeah I don't get this.

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It's a coup. I don't like Trump and hated having to vote for him, but the alternative was... unthinkable. We're being looked down on like idiots. By idiots, that's the worst part. The people in DC are either greedy idiots, incompetent boobs, pushover weaklings or depraved head cases. The Russians hacked our election.... BS. Now the North Koreans were the ones behind that lame hacking.... BS. Our government has turned on us, we're all disenfranchised. All of us.
Then revolt. What else can I tell you?
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:45 AM
 
Location: NJ
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So legally the three ongoing investigations are now irrelevant. It would make legal sense for people like FLynn to reject appearances at any of the committees.


Why would a lawyer allow a client to speak in from of 4 different committeees and then have his words twisted as lawyers are prone to do and use it against him.


The spec prosecuter snags documents and evidence that will no longer be available to the other committees and essentially end their effectiveness and invalidate any conclusions.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:51 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Icy Tea

"It's a coup. I don't like Trump and hated having to vote for him, but the alternative was... unthinkable. We're being looked down on like idiots. By idiots, that's the worst part. The people in DC are either greedy idiots, incompetent boobs, pushover weaklings or depraved head cases. The Russians hacked our election.... BS. Now the North Koreans were the ones behind that lame hacking.... BS. Our government has turned on us, we're all disenfranchised. All of us.

Then revolt. What else can I tell you?"

Please do...there are only 3.4 million more Hillary voters to shoulder a firearm...
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:52 AM
 
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Default Are you sad, special snowflake?

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So legally the three ongoing investigations are now irrelevant. It would make legal sense for people like FLynn to reject appearances at any of the committees.


Why would a lawyer allow a client to speak in from of 4 different committeees and then have his words twisted as lawyers are prone to do and use it against him.


The spec prosecuter snags documents and evidence that will no longer be available to the other committees and essentially end their effectiveness and invalidate any conclusions.
I hope he does refuse subpoenas...it will be so much better when he is on tv doing a perp walk in shackles
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:01 AM
Status: "Mueller will be investigating Trump until at least 2019." (set 20 days ago)
 
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The thought of your president seeking asylum in Saudi Arabia is quite funny, actually


A question from a European and not that finely knowledgeable as per your institutions as some posters here :

What happens if THIS investigation goes nowhere? For whatever reason? As any rational person can foresee that he will keep on doing stupid things over stupid things, and it's only been 5 months, can impeachment process over impeachment process accumulate/succeed one after another?


EDA : however big is that mess you're in ( I mean ALL Americans), rest assured that most europeans are IMPRESSED with the way your institutions work and keep you from bigger messes. Thumbs up !
Congress can impeach or replace without the requirement to find a legal wrong doing. It just does not happen.

many Americans don't understand this, they think POTUS is bullet proof, but there are a few ways to remove him. Frankly they can get rid of Trump any day they like, Trump has plenty of conflicts and ethics breaches that would be enough to remove him.

Keep in mind the GOP would not want to do that as they would struggle to retain their seats in 2018 and 2020.


(to the trumpers getting ready to shout NO NO NO , look it the hell up impeachment is easy, and Trump failed to fully separate himself from his businesses which have directly benefitted from foreign monies no profit is required to breach the law)
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