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Old 05-18-2017, 11:03 AM
Status: "Mueller will be investigating Trump until at least 2019." (set 12 days ago)
 
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Originally Posted by Icy Tea

"It's a coup. I don't like Trump and hated having to vote for him, but the alternative was... unthinkable. We're being looked down on like idiots. By idiots, that's the worst part. The people in DC are either greedy idiots, incompetent boobs, pushover weaklings or depraved head cases. The Russians hacked our election.... BS. Now the North Koreans were the ones behind that lame hacking.... BS. Our government has turned on us, we're all disenfranchised. All of us.

Then revolt. What else can I tell you?"

Please do...there are only 3.4 million more Hillary voters to shoulder a firearm...
you would not be fighting Hillary voters, you would be fighting the NEW POTUS and the GOP and of course the US military, Police force and national guard. Who would you shoot your neighbor who voted for hillary? really? Or are you thinking you and your mates can take on your state and federal gov.
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:09 AM
 
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Of all of bozo and hilLIARy wrongdoing was there ever a special prosecutor?
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Nice, France
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Nice, France
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Congress can impeach or replace without the requirement to find a legal wrong doing. It just does not happen.

many Americans don't understand this, they think POTUS is bullet proof, but there are a few ways to remove him. Frankly they can get rid of Trump any day they like, Trump has plenty of conflicts and ethics breaches that would be enough to remove him.

Keep in mind the GOP would not want to do that as they would struggle to retain their seats in 2018 and 2020.


(to the trumpers getting ready to shout NO NO NO , look it the hell up impeachment is easy, and Trump failed to fully separate himself from his businesses which have directly benefitted from foreign monies no profit is required to breach the law)

Thank you for your answer, it clarified a little as for impeachment not beeing judiciary condemnation.

It's also very clear that the GOP has a lot at stakes.

I probably expressed myself badly (AGAIN - not directed to you personally ).

What I meant was, since Trump has so many "baggages", starting with nepotism and many conflicts of interests (only talking about FACTS since he got in position, not even going back to the campaign - or Godess forbids, his business achievements), and also since it's only been 5 months, do US institutions permit for numerous empeachment processes or will that be a process that will go on and on until enough proof is gathered?

Because, it's obvious it's only the beginning of his blunders/criminal acts/dangerous, etc. Well, obvious to rational people only, I guess.
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So legally the three ongoing investigations are now irrelevant. It would make legal sense for people like FLynn to reject appearances at any of the committees.


Why would a lawyer allow a client to speak in from of 4 different committeees and then have his words twisted as lawyers are prone to do and use it against him.


The spec prosecuter snags documents and evidence that will no longer be available to the other committees and essentially end their effectiveness and invalidate any conclusions.
The congressional investigations will continue as will the FBI investigation, there are hearings next week.
I am not sure if the request for the FBI documents by the senate can continue, Comey is scheduled to testify next week. The esteemed Judge Napolitano indicated as you did but I have not heard that from a reliable source.
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Thank you for your answer, it clarified a little as for impeachment not beeing judiciary condemnation.

It's also very clear that the GOP has a lot at stakes.

I probably expressed myself badly (AGAIN - not directed to you personally ).

What I meant was, since Trump has so many "baggages", starting with nepotism and many conflicts of interests (only talking about FACTS since he got in position, not even going back to the campaign - or Godess forbids, his business achievements), and also since it's only been 5 months, do US institutions permit for numerous empeachment processes or will that be a process that will go on and on until enough proof is gathered?

Because, it's obvious it's only the beginning of his blunders/criminal acts/dangerous, etc. Well, obvious to rational people only, I guess.
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The GOP has to be careful. They can face this head on and try to impeach Trump or wait until must-read and see the houses of Congress possibly turn blue due to lack of action and "approval" of Trump.
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:34 AM
 
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Its a coup! I mean, as long as you don't know the definition of what a "coup" is, its totally a coup!
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:58 AM
 
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former FBI Director Mueller will take charge of all the information. former FBI Comey operated a secret investigation that he failed to inform Congress about - we need to know "why" he did that. The only Crime we KNOW of at this point is - LEAKS of classified material, Un-Masking of people that is not legal and a few LIES under Oath to Congressional Committees.
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What was the secret investigation??
I watch Congressional Hearings ..... just because the press chooses to "interpret" for the "little people", doesn't mean the "little people" can't have access to the hearings. The March 20th Hearing was important, as was the May 3 Senate Judicial Hearing in which Director Comey basically said he felt like he had to take over for Attorney General Lynch because she couldn't be trusted. This is really why he was fired according the Deputy AG Rosenstein. Comey appeared to think he was more important than Congress, Clapper, Lynch and the DOJ.

https://youtu.be/HlXXZQgh72Y -- Video of Congressional Testimony March 20, 2017

The person asking the question is a new CongressCritter - Rep. Elise Stefanik, but she managed to expose that Director Comey was NOT informing Congress OR the designated Congress Critters or the DNI charged with "Secret" reports on a quarterly basis about an important investigation.

In the segment of the questioning (linked above) Rep. Stefanik begins by asking director Comey what are the typical protocols, broad standards and procedures for notifying the Director of National Intelligence, the White House and senior congressional leadership (aka the intelligence Gang of Eight), when the FBI has opened a counter-intelligence investigation. Sounds like a smart and reasonable question. The counter-intel investigation, by his own admission, began in July 2016. Congress was not notified until March 2017. That’s an eight month period – Obviously obfuscating the quarterly claim moments earlier.

The parseltongue response from Comey is a generalized reply (with uncomfortable body language) that notification of counter-intel investigations are discussed with the White House, and other pertinent officials, on a calendar basis, ie. “quarterly”.

With the statement that such counter-intel notifications happen “generally quarterly”, and against the backdrop that Comey stated in July of 2016 a counter-intel investigation began, Stefanik asks:

…”when did you notify the White House, the DNI and congressional leadership”?

Comey's answer was not only a LIE, but a silly ridiculous LIE - he said there was no active DNI -which is entirely false- James Clapper was Obama’s DNI.

Unfortunately - Rep Stefanik (who was not a Representative in July 2016 when Comey began the "Secret Investigation on Donald Trump that the Congress was now just discovering) didn't ask the obvious follow up question, which should have been ......

"Director Comey -- we are all aware that their was a Director of National Intelligence in July 2016, his name is James Clapper. I ask again - exactly WHO did your inform and when did you inform them? When was the White House informed, when was the Intelligence Community informed and who initiated an Investigation of Republican Candidate Donald Trump? "Sensitivity" is not a good enough (or normal) excuse to NOT make your mandated Quarterly reports to Congress and an Investigation that is concealed from Congress into a Candidate for President is highly unusual. We need to know WHO charged the FBI to perform this Investigation & Surveillance."
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Somewhere Over the Rainbow
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So legally the three ongoing investigations are now irrelevant. It would make legal sense for people like FLynn to reject appearances at any of the committees.
You've never heard of a subpoena? He can be subpoena'd by 15 different committees and he had better appear at all of them.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Somewhere Over the Rainbow
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Of all of bozo and hilLIARy wrongdoing was there ever a special prosecutor?
The committees conducting the investigations could have requested one. Why would DOJ interfere with a congressional investigation and send in special counsel
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