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Are you deliberately being obtuse? I asked you to clarify what YOUR specific beef on this specific thread is.
Is it, as it appears in your first post, that you think the impeachment talk is about Trump's Russian debts? Because that's like saying Nixon's impeachment charges were about a burglary.
Let's start with this. I didn't vote for Trump. I don't like him as a person. He is a liar. He is a jackass. I don't trust him. I was always annoyed seeing his smug face promoting his dumb show.
I did like many of his promises, but I never believed he would really try to accomplish them.
I'd rather have Pence in the WH.
That being said, what is currently happening is horrible for our country. The vicious partisanship where you have millions calling for impeachment due to convincing themselves that at one time he may have gotten loans from Russia and somehow owes Putin is insanity.
Do any of these fools understand that this won't end if Trump is impeached? It is going to devolve into such vindictiveness that I fear we could have a Constitutional crisis and actually see a coup, even a military coup.
I get that people are upset that this clown is in the WH. I get that it's scary to many people; however, it should be even more scary as to what this crazy, I mean insane, divisiveness could very easily lead to.
I think half this country would accept impeachment based on nothing more than resentment without understanding the inherent danger of it.
I just don't think many people see what can happen here and how troubling this is.
Exactly what Russia wants by helping to elect a useful idiot in charge. They WANT the US to become destabilized. The ultimate goal of Russia IS probably to get their puppet impeached, because they know it'll incite unrest.
Honestly, the fact that talk of breaking up the United States is done on such a matter of fact manner is worrisome. I've seen threads on here several times throwing out such notions. Such a divorce would be quite ugly.
BTW, I know we've been more divide which is why I said in modern times.
What's the fix though? What institutional mechanism is there that addresses this rancor and division that gets worse with each passing election? Is some magic candidate going to appear that makes us all work together?
I'm not trying to be rude or disrespectful to you, but I genuinely do not see how we improve things without a wholesale paradigm shift. Or a return to true federalism, but we all know that won't happen.
There are Trump supporters on here calling for civil war if Trump is impeached by a Republican congress, and you think it's Democrats who oppose the peaceful transfer of power? That is just...I have no words.
Let's start with this. I didn't vote for Trump. I don't like him as a person. He is a liar. He is a jackass. I don't trust him. I was always annoyed seeing his smug face promoting his dumb show.
I did like many of his promises, but I never believed he would really try to accomplish them.
I'd rather have Pence in the WH.
That being said, what is currently happening is horrible for our country. The vicious partisanship where you have millions calling for impeachment due to convincing themselves that at one time he may have gotten loans from Russia and somehow owes Putin is insanity.
Do any of these fools understand that this won't end if Trump is impeached? It is going to devolve into such vindictiveness that I fear we could have a Constitutional crisis and actually see a coup, even a military coup.
I get that people are upset that this clown is in the WH. I get that it's scary to many people; however, it should be even more scary as to what this crazy, I mean insane, divisiveness could very easily lead to.
I think half this country would accept impeachment based on nothing more than resentment without understanding the inherent danger of it.
I just don't think many people see what can happen here and how troubling this is.
He's "draining the swamp". The county has been getting "torn apart" for years.
He's doing exactly what I voted him in for,
And I knew there was going to be a backlash against any TRUE opposition to the special interests running that have been running this country.
You might scan the threads on CD, watch the news, hop around the internet or just listen to people talk.
You should take your own advice if you are going to continue to ignore people telling you that this isn't remotely just about whether Trump may have had loans from Russia at some point, which is so far the only thing you've cited as the basis for the current investigation - which as you've been reminded, is from a Trump-appointed assistant attorney general naming a well respected Special Prosecutor.
What's the fix though? What institutional mechanism is there that addresses this rancor and division that gets worse with each passing election? Is some magic candidate going to appear that makes us all work together?
I'm not trying to be rude or disrespectful to you, but I genuinely do not see how we improve things without a wholesale paradigm shift. Or a return to true federalism, but we all know that won't happen.
I think the only fix is reasonable people speaking out and hopefully reigning in the people who are normally reasonable but have gotten caught up in the madness.
Of course, a huge obstacle is the press. They have shirked pretty much all journalistic integrity for agenda and ratings.
Let's start with this. I didn't vote for Trump. I don't like him as a person. He is a liar. He is a jackass. I don't trust him. I was always annoyed seeing his smug face promoting his dumb show.
I did like many of his promises, but I never believed he would really try to accomplish them.
I'd rather have Pence in the WH.
That being said, what is currently happening is horrible for our country. The vicious partisanship where you have millions calling for impeachment due to convincing themselves that at one time he may have gotten loans from Russia and somehow owes Putin is insanity.
Do any of these fools understand that this won't end if Trump is impeached? It is going to devolve into such vindictiveness that I fear we could have a Constitutional crisis and actually see a coup, even a military coup.
I get that people are upset that this clown is in the WH. I get that it's scary to many people; however, it should be even more scary as to what this crazy, I mean insane, divisiveness could very easily lead to.
I think half this country would accept impeachment based on nothing more than resentment without understanding the inherent danger of it.
I just don't think many people see what can happen here and how troubling this is.
The internet, especially places like this forum, is full of drama-queens. Liberal or conservative, right or left.
It is simple really. Just because you have people screaming impeach for little to no reason does mean this is what is going to happen and on the flip side just because another corner scream it does not matter what Trump does and they are behind him no matter what, or believe the accusations to be fake, if there is something that warrants impeachment it will be done. Relax.
Oh I agree. I don't talk politics with people IRL that often but I've made people angry when they are frothing about the latest scandal or bombshell and I don't agree because I just find it all amusing. Dangerously amusing but still... I'd rather see the humor in absurdity than pretend there's actually something I can do about it.
I feel the same way...almost.
I don't see any danger in anything that may or may not happen. Then again my only hope is that the State collapses.
He's "draining the swamp". The county has been getting "torn apart" for years.
He's doing exactly what I voted him in for,
And I knew there was going to be a backlash against any TRUE opposition to the special interests running that have been running this country.
Sorry if you can't read between the lines.
The swamp is overflowing and more murky than ever, Washington is more chaotic than ever these days. He is too caught up in controversies and scandals to be draining anything. He is absolutely overwhelmed by the swamp.
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