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Old 05-19-2017, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
You need to learn you're wrong. And DEAD wrong when it comes to the MORBIDLY obese poor.

These stats tell us a LOT about the health damage caused by Food Stamps:

Income-eligible children on Food Stamps: 24% obese
Income-eligible children NOT on Food Stamps: 20% obese

Non-poor children who of course don't even qualify for Food Stamps: 13% obese

Income-eligible adults on Food Stamps: 44% obese
Income-eligible adults NOT on Food Stamps: 33% obese
Non-poor adults who of course don't even qualify for Food Stamps: 32% obese

Exhibit 5, here:

http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/defaul...-SNAP07-10.pdf

See the difference? The income-eligible adults and children who DON'T get Food Stamps have a LOWER obesity rate than those on Food Stamps.

Eliminate Food Stamps and Free School Breakfast and Lunch programs for low-income kids. They're having the deleterious effect of contributing to exceptionally high rates of adult and childhood obesity among the poor. Keep WIC, but add more restrictions on what can be purchased with WIC benefits.
I was curious about your response, but all you did was parrot one of your previous posts and didn't really say anything. You just threw up some stats, thinking that A infers B. Correlation does not equal causation.

On my ignore list you remain 😒

 
Old 05-19-2017, 05:39 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
Education plays a role in the decline, as well, and the news is NOT good:


U.S. millennials post 'abysmal' scores in tech, math, thinking ability, and workplace skills test, lag behind foreign peers - Washington Post

I can post info on how and why this precipitous decline happened, if anyone wishes. It began 50 years ago, and it was intentional.
Thanks for the link. Fascinating.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 05:41 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Originally Posted by yoavsos15 View Post
Why would I pay more taxes for health care if I can finance it by myself?
From what you wrote, I guess the population that need this "social programs" (that most of the people against) is the poor.
As you've listed your location as Israel, do you see the taxes you pay towards the Israeli Healthcare system only for the poor?
 
Old 05-19-2017, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Originally Posted by Mr. Joshua View Post
All of my friends and family have fed, clothed, and housed their families without any help.

I'm willing to help people in need. I'm not willing to help people who suck.
Did they take a tax deduction for all of those family members? Then they had help. Did the kids go to public school? Then they had help. Did they drive on public roads to get to the job to support their families? Then they had help. Did they buy milk for the kids that was cheaper because of ag subsidies? Then they had help. Did the kids do their homework on internet service that had infrastructure enabled through the federal e-rate program? Then they had help. I think you get my point.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 05:45 AM
 
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Guess thats why they live so much longer there? 79.3 in the US vs. 81.2 UK A whole 1.9 years longer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ife_expectancy

Maybe they have a higher Human Development Index? #10 US vs. 16 UK Nope, we have them beat there
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...elopment_Index

Maybe they have a higher Quality of Life? #16 US vs. #27 UK Guess we are happier here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where-to-be-born_Index

So the great Health care system in the UK allows them to live an unhappy 1.9 years longer than us I'll take the US and be happy!

Anyway, We are already a mixture of Socialist and Capitalist, like most countries on the lists above. We are doing quite well compared to the Majority of the world and the UK without any additional taxes!
Why do we need additional taxes? Are we paying for the wars? Are you supporting the idea of higher taxes to pay for them?

I don't understand.......we can somehow fund needless useless wars but we can't take care of our sick.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 06:20 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Workin_Hard View Post
Why are we as a society so adverse to the idea of realizing there *are* defective human beings (as described above) and that allowing them to fail and self-destruct is okay? Instead, we keep 'saving" them, facilitate their behavior, fund their breeding and continued parasite activities, and enable all that is wrong with them.

Let nature take it's course. I could sleep well knowing their failure is not my failure.
For my part, I know too many people who were at rock bottom in their lives who, through lots of work and support, turned their lives around. These people have become productive members of society who contribute much to their communities.

#alllivesmatter right?
 
Old 05-19-2017, 06:22 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220 View Post
I was curious about your response, but all you did was parrot one of your previous posts and didn't really say anything.
I made a suggestion that would end the Food Stamps obesity problem. You just don't like it.

Why are you in favor of ruining poor people's health?
 
Old 05-19-2017, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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The only group of people who should receive government assistance is military personnel injured in combat. They are "us" and not civilians who make poor life choices. They should get prompt and quality care before one dime goes out in welfare or SS.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 06:52 AM
 
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The only group of people who should receive government assistance is military personnel injured in combat. They are "us" and not civilians who make poor life choices. They should get prompt and quality care before one dime goes out in welfare or SS.
How is one to determine that the company you went to work for is going to go out of business or that things completely out of your control is going to crash the economy?
 
Old 05-19-2017, 06:57 AM
 
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most people hate social programs until they need them and then they feel entitled to them/.
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