Why are so many Americans against social programs? (federal government, states, vote)

[t206]

Originally Posted by pknopp

We can stop it tomorrow. I see few demand we quit spending Trillions that they are unwilling to actually pay for.

Well, with the clowns we have in office on both sides, I'd say there is no chance of stopping tomorrow. But my point was that we dug a pretty deep hole with previous spending, and whats spent is spent.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by s1alker

They are against them until they need them like Ayn Rand.

I'd not ever heard or read that Ayn Rand got Welfare, Food Stamps, Section 8, etc., public assistance benefits. Do you have any proof of that?

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by t206

Well, with the clowns we have in office on both sides, I'd say there is no chance of stopping tomorrow. But my point was that we dug a pretty deep hole with previous spending, and whats spent is spent.

But we can stop tomorrow. Where are people demanding that? I've brought it up a few times and still....no one. (there is a reason why)

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by pknopp

Are you going to start a charity to pay for the wars?

National Defense is a Constitutional obligation designated to the Fed Gov. Public Assistance programs are not.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

National Defense is a Constitutional obligation designated to the Fed Gov. Public Assistance programs are not.

Our wars have nothing to do with the defense of the country.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by pknopp

How does one go about protecting themselves from their place of employment closing with no notice?

Guy graduates from college with six figure debt...

Stupid mistake. Entirely unnecessary.

[maat55]

Originally Posted by pknopp

Our wars have nothing to do with the defense of the country.

That's debatable, but I will easily agree that we are spending/using the military, unconstitutionally, on defense.

[Caligula1]

I have nothing against public assistance for those in need, meaning the elderly and the truly disabled.
I also believe in a hand up for people who are struggling..

But, I believe that people collecting welfare, food stamps should be doing something to give back or earn these programs..
In addition to looking for work they should have to do some sort of community service..
It can be anything and vary by ability and assistance received..
This of course would be by the able bodied, not the truly disabled and elderly..

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by pknopp

Our current wars have nothing to do with defense of the country.

You know that, how? Does ISIS/ISIL not ever attack the US?

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by maat55

That's debatable, but I will easily agree that we are spending/using the military, unconstitutionally, on defense.

Where are the bake sales to fund these unconstitutional actions?