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Ask those on the left. I suggested implementing a 25% national VAT tax in the US (like many Scandinavian/European countries have) to fund single payer national health care, and those on the left just about had a seizure over that. They want single payer national health care, but they DON'T want to pay the taxes needed to fund it. Go figure... /SMH
Many on the left fail to realize that even Seniors have to PAY for their Medicare... Monthly premiums, co-pays, deductibles, prescriptions aren't covered, and only 80% is covered. Seniors must buy an additional supplemental insurance policy if they want prescriptions and the other 20% covered.
You and I have disagreed on VAT before but I've changed my tune. I agree - all should pay and all would benefit.
Why would you want my opinion over that of the founders who actually formed the government? The federal government does meet its constitutional duties by providing national defense, infrastructure and other "general" services. Forced redistribution, by nature, is immoral.
Things like Q.E. is also forced redistribution. The manipulated interest rates are forced redistribution.
Again....end the socialist welfare programs for Wall Street and I will consider ending the programs that have to be implemented to offset those programs.
We can't afford to pay anymore taxes. Those of us that do work can't carry any more of the burden of those that want things to be "free" for them. Those that don't want to work now want the same things that other people have without working for it. Many people barely make ends meet now with both adults in the household working.
We aren't paying for the wars so why should we have to pay for other things? Why should the war industry get to run on credit but it's bad for others?
What you don't seem to grasp is that you are still paying for other people's healthcare even though you pay out of pocket. Where do you think the money for all the people who flood the emergency rooms for lack of insurance comes from? The answer: YOU!
A large portion of Americans seem to be against social programs even though it may be for the common good. When there is talk of the (on average) much better social programs in many European countries the general response is "well, they have to spend more on taxes". To which I ask.....so? If it meant far better health care, far better maternity leave, etc. isn't that worth it? Do not the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one?
I think it depends on what you call a "large portion" as being against. It would seem that the vast majority believe exactly the opposite:
Strange when people talk about "socialistic policies", they never bother to consider the numbers of people actually accessing them. The conundrum comes with perhaps Scandinavian countries and European countries having "better" social safety nets but by far fewer people per-capita actually using them.
Americans like to think they're all rugged individualists, but the fact of over 51% accessing some form of governmental wealth redistribution would suggest otherwise.
America has more people reliant upon EBT cards to merely feed themselves than MOST of those other countries have citizens.
Apparently a majority of Americans do indeed believe their needs outweigh the needs of the one............ONLY when it comes to healthcare of course.............
Things like Q.E. is also forced redistribution. The manipulated interest rates are forced redistribution.
Again....end the socialist welfare programs for Wall Street and I will consider ending the programs that have to be implemented to offset those programs.
The reason that will never happen is because Wall Street doesn't benefit the most from those policies. America's millions of workers and retirees benefit the most. You yourself expect to collect a pension. See what I mean?
The problem with regulating/limiting profits in any sector is that doing so harms those who depend on corporate profits, which most are surprised to learn are overwhelmingly America's workers and retirees. In aggregate, they have $27 trillion invested in equities, etc., in their pension plans and retirement accounts.
And the US's biggest investor? Not some rich 0.0001%-er. It's CalPERS, the California Public Employees' Retirement System. They need corporate profits to fund California's public employee retirees' pensions. The same is true in every city, state, and even the Fed Gov. We're talking police, fire department, teachers, etc., etc. They're all public employees and their pensions and retirement benefits could not be paid if corporate profits were regulated, limited, or even completely eliminated.
Quote:
"Can you name the biggest American investor? No, it's not Warren Buffett; as a matter of fact, it is not a person. It is CalPERS, the California Public Employees' Retirement System"...
Exxon
General Electric
Microsoft
Citigroup
Bank of America
Johnson & Johnson
Wal-Mart
Pfizer
Proctor & Gamble
JP Morgan Chase
Oh I don't know, considering this is a chit chat debate forum, I would think that you would have something to say. Maybe I'm wrong.
Those quotes prove nothing.
I did say it. I provided the order at which welfare/charity should be followed. We have 50 state governments for a reason. Does it not make sense that individuals needs be addressed as close to home as possible, having 50 states experimenting solutions on balanced budgets?
I hate to be the one to tell you, but the federal government is not god, you can stop worshipping it.
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