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Old 05-19-2017, 08:13 PM
 
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I wonder what DeBlasio and NYPD secret it is, that all these other smaller cities can learn from!

Des Moines had more homicides then Manhattan at one point.

Birmingham more homicides then Manhattan, Bronx and Staten Island.
Money.

It's really easy to solve your problems when you have 1) Actual social programs and 2) Money to fund them.
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Old 05-20-2017, 12:03 AM
 
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Wow, what is going on in New York City? Crazy low homicide rates that are likely lower then many Canadian and some European cities?

Amazing, how law and order the Mayor is in New York City compared to many cities. It just boggles my mind how the rates can be so low. What is NYPD and the Mayor's secret recipe of keeping rates so low for such a major city.


http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/down...en-us-pbbx.pdf

http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/down...en-us-pbms.pdf

http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/down...en-us-pbmn.pdf

http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/down...en-us-pbsi.pdf

Only 20 homicides in the Bronx, 16 Manhtattan and 4 in Staten Island: Bronx, Manhattan and Staten Island total of 40

Young woman killed in early-morning southwest Birmingham drive-by shooting | AL.com

41 homicides in Birmingham, Alabama

With 1/7th of the population of the Bronx yet twice the homicides in actual numbers.
You compare a city that is >70% black with three that are apprx 17% (Manhattan), 43% (Bronx) and 9% (Staten Island).

Birmingham's demographics are closer to Gary, IN, Newark, NJ or Detroit.

Did you do that on purpose?

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Old 05-20-2017, 01:43 AM
 
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You compare a city that is >70% black with three that are apprx 17% (Manhattan), 43% (Bronx) and 9% (Staten Island).

Birmingham's demographics are closer to Gary, IN, Newark, NJ or Detroit.

Did you do that on purpose?
And what about Brooklyn and Queens?

I'm guessing the Brooklyn and Queens stats might have motivated the OP to 'cherry pick his boroughs'.
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Old 05-20-2017, 03:53 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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You compare a city that is >70% black with three that are apprx 17% (Manhattan), 43% (Bronx) and 9% (Staten Island).

Birmingham's demographics are closer to Gary, IN, Newark, NJ or Detroit.

Did you do that on purpose?
When you take a city that is overwhelmingly the demographic that commits 12 times more murders than the national average, that are going to have a very high murder rate and you can only compare that city against other cities with similar demographics to make a legitimate comparison.

Good on NYC for having a very low crime rate....to me it's likely mostly tied to the fact that you have to be upper income to live there and that's not the demographic that has a high murder rate.
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Old 05-20-2017, 04:49 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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High Income to live in the Bronx and SI? I do not think so. In fact I know that is wrong. Lived on SI many years ago and still have friends and family their.

What you could say is that the income in NYC is higher then most of the rest of the country, however the middleclass of NYC live in 4 borough's and commute to the 5th. What would be considered wealthy in most of the country is only middle class in NYC.
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Old 05-20-2017, 04:59 AM
 
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And here I thought all cities with Democratic mayors were hell holes.
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Old 05-20-2017, 05:32 AM
 
Location: USA
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Low murder rate but they bankrupted everyone else.

Income level
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Old 05-20-2017, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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And here I thought all cities with Democratic mayors were hell holes.
Anybody with a brain knows that's not right. Birmingham also has a Dim Mayor so does Detroit, Gary, Indiana, E. St. Louis Memphis....all the cities that really suck have Dim Mayors.
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Old 05-20-2017, 01:24 PM
 
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High Income to live in the Bronx and SI? I do not think so. In fact I know that is wrong. Lived on SI many years ago and still have friends and family their.

What you could say is that the income in NYC is higher then most of the rest of the country, however the middleclass of NYC live in 4 borough's and commute to the 5th. What would be considered wealthy in most of the country is only middle class in NYC.
Staten Island is pretty damn expensive. You're gonna need a household income in the six figures to afford a home out there no matter where it is on the island.

And Bronx property ain't cheap either. Homes in even tough neighborhoods like Allerton/Laconia are gonna run 300k plus.
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Old 05-20-2017, 01:29 PM
 
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Anybody with a brain knows that's not right. Birmingham also has a Dim Mayor so does Detroit, Gary, Indiana, E. St. Louis Memphis....all the cities that really suck have Dim Mayors.
Lol...Gary and East St Louis are tiny towns...you need to get out more. You've never been to either place or met real people from there.

Detroit has multiple serious issues, but all of it doesn't suck. And Memphis ain't that bad either.

Besides, it ain't like things in those places would get any better with a Repub mayor. They'd probably get worse.
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