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Old 05-25-2017, 08:05 AM
 
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You can tell that to the native Americans and the Aborigines too.

You have been reading the Bible. Snake in the Bible is Shaytan (Satan), unless you are trying to incite killing of these snakes, you call your friends when you are in Islam forum.
you're not saying the truth
Because you are trying to make that forum for Islamic preaching
You know that the Islamic Forum is restricted in freedom and you are unable to respond to what I write scientifically
And whatever I write, I will prove it
You always accuse me of not knowing English
But here in this partnership I understand my words well
This shows that you are lying

 
Old 05-25-2017, 08:08 AM
 
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Although Netanyahu didn't say anything publically regarding the leaks by Trump to there were some behind the scenes shouting matches between US and Israeli intelligence officials.
You were there?
 
Old 05-25-2017, 08:09 AM
 
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Reuters
British police have stopped sharing information on the suicide bombing in Manchester with the United States, the BBC reported on Thursday, because of fears that leaks in the U.S. media could hinder a hunt for a possible bomb-maker still at large.
If confirmed, the halt to the sharing investigative details with Britain's most important defence and security ally would underscore the level of anger in Britain at leaks to the U.S. media of details about the police investigation.
UK police stop sharing information on Manchester attack with U.S. after leaks

The media needs to stop reporting ANYTHING that comes out of that lying MORON'S mouth!
LOCK HIM UP!
I agree, lock up the Obama loyalists who are leaking this stuff.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Originally Posted by TriMT7 View Post
Again with this obfuscation.

ISLAM is a RELIGION. It is CHOSEN. It is an IDEOLOGY. It is an ideology that motivates terrorists. Like Nazism motivated and led to the holocaust (there were, after all, Nazis who did not believe in violence or the death to Jews stuff). Having a religion is like being a Republican or a Democrat or a Socialist or a Communist, and wrapping up that ideology as being handed down from God.


Being an AMERICAN (or being white or black or gay or handicap) is not a choice. It's also never really a motivating factor for acts of atrocity or terror. Not too many terrorists write manfiestos about how their American identity or ideology motivates their actions. Right wing nationalism may. Left wing beliefs may...but not too many recorded instances of terrorists screaming "GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!" as they blow themselves up in a night club.


And in fact, at the national level, you will find VERY large resistance to even American foreign policy actions. Of course, you will have Americans who are war mongering. Just as you have plenty who are pacificists. But there is only one Islam, and everywhere Islam is the religion held by the majority of the populace, it acts a s a cancer. Terror ALWAYS follows. Oppression of women and LBGT ALWAYS follows.


[Americans don't run around calling ourselves a "nation of Peace," either. Everyone knows that's not true, and it's been our self-appointed role to be world policeman since WW2, for better or not. Pax Americana or not.]
American never gets involved unless they have something to gain, and the bottom line is money. Well, let me tell you, American governments over the past say 30 years have sold us out to rich Muslims. They now own so much of our real estate. Perhaps a lot of the reason why the Media doesn't report the truth on this subject?

They never learn, I hoped when 911 happened it would change things, but it didn't....they continued to allow people into this country, willy nilly. Just like England and other countries have. They are living in a trojan horse presently, but will erupt and conquer, b/c people are so trusting.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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The liberals have ruined America.
Wow, that's the best you've got?

I'm used to Trumpers making things up, but at least put some effort into it LOL.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I think in all fairness and in all honesty,

We humans are lazy, especially when it comes to matters as complicated as geopolitics and economics. That's why we have a tendency to blame all our troubles on a single easily-identifiable problem. We use scapegoats quite frequently and Middle Easterners are not alone in this. In many Muslim-majority nations in West and Central Asia and North Africa, this indisputably detrimental "enemy" is the United States.

KNOWING this, Americans should tell each other, United, we win. Divided, we lose. we would have to work with the Muslim communities inside our country, demonizing them just won't work, because they are not going anywhere.

Muslims need to teach their children for God's sake that westerners and foreign policies are not to blame. (at least, foreign policy is not the ONLY thing to blame) Look at yourself in the mirror. If you join ISIS and other terrorist groups, you are actually help the terrorists killing more of your Muslim people because the majority of ISIS victims are Muslims. If you blame somebody, blame the terrorist groups. Killing westerns just make matters worse. What else do you want? internment camp? civil war?
 
Old 05-25-2017, 08:14 AM
 
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They might know more than they imagined.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 08:14 AM
 
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And it is. That doesn't have anything to do with not being a warring nation. All the happy little socialist countries in Europe? The NATO umbrella and US willingness (stupidly, I might add) to be the policeman for the western world while European and Canadian governments plow funds into social programs instead of common defense.

But see what happens when someone like Trump starts telling them they need to pull their own weight! Suddenly the US is "not living up to its commitments!"
It may be A bastion but it is not THE bastion of equality and freedom. It is completely ridiculous to believe that America is the only country which embraces equality and freedom especially when compared to other countries. We are almost always behind the curve in these categories.




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That's because you, like others, still haven't managed to grasp the difference between "inherent" or "immutable" identities vs. CHOSEN identities.


ISLAM is less akin to RACE than it is to COMMUNISTS or FASCISM - I.D.E.O.L.O.G.Y.

All Nazis everywhere had to and absolutely have to answer for the logical conclusions and outcomes of their IDEOLOGY. All Republicans must answer for other Republicans. All Maoists must answer for what others do in the name of their belief system.



No black person can act "on behalf of blacks." There is no ideology of "black"... nothing to attack other than the person themselves for being black. Islam is a bad ideology given the cloak of special protection because a sufficient number of people believe in it to give it the status of a religion vs. a cult.
Do all Americans have to answer for the **** we do to people in other countries?
 
Old 05-25-2017, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981 View Post
I think in all fairness and in all honesty,

We humans are lazy, especially when it comes to matters as complicated as geopolitics and economics. That's why we have a tendency to blame all our troubles on a single easily-identifiable problem. We use scapegoats quite frequently and Middle Easterners are not alone in this. In many Muslim-majority nations in West and Central Asia and North Africa, this indisputably detrimental "enemy" is the United States.

KNOWING this, Americans should tell each other, United, we win. Divided, we lose. we would have to work with the Muslim communities inside our country, demonizing them just won't work, because they are not going anywhere.

Muslims need to teach their children for God's sake that westerners and foreign policies are not to blame. (at least, foreign policy is not the ONLY thing to blame) Look at yourself in the mirror. If you join ISIS and other terrorist groups, you are actually help the terrorists killing more of your Muslim people because the majority of ISIS victims are Muslims. If you blame somebody, blame the terrorist groups. Killing westerns just make matters worse. What else do you want? internment camp? civil war?
You are correct, and you would think they would, but, there are so many of them I believe are afraid to do so, but yes, that would be the answer. It has to start from within.

But, our politicians and our media, also have to do this, in order to make it work....but honestly, I think it's too late. Way too much money has changed hands, and there is no turning back. I hope I'm wrong, I do, and I wish your way would work, but the media has to come on board, and that won't happen.

another thing, that is working in favor of the terrorists, is....we are being bombarded with murders every day, performed by gang members....we are becoming desensitized by it and are ignoring that it is actually happening in a lot of our larger cities.

Every single day, here in Philly, at least one person is killed, even if it's a child who was shot by drive byes.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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You are correct, and you would think they would, but, there are so many of them I believe are afraid to do so, but yes, that would be the answer. It has to start from within.

But, our politicians and our media, also have to do this, in order to make it work....but honestly, I think it's too late. Way too much money has changed hands, and there is no turning back. I hope I'm wrong, I do, and I wish your way would work, but the media has to come on board, and that won't happen.
sad but true
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