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Old 05-23-2017, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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We just need to be taxed more. The next penny will put us over the hump!
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Old 05-23-2017, 09:40 PM
 
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I don't see where anyone is suggesting that. The mixed economic model with free markets has worked very well for us.
Thank you for your thought out response. Those seem rare on CD these days...

I agree with the mixed model working well for us, but you are not a flaming liberal wanting to incite a riot. There are lots of those on CD, and generally they believe that all corporations are evil. The bigger and/or richer they are, the more evil they are. They believe the same applies to wealthy individuals, and they want the government to bust all these companies and individuals down to size by taking most of their wealth away, then giving all that money to the poor.

Isn't that pure socialism? It is what I see coming from CD posters on a daily basis. It seems the younger they are, the stronger they feel about that point of view. I'll be gone by then, but I have to admit that I am worried about the future.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:20 PM
 
Location: 89434
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Liberals suggest that we keep spending more money on failed government programs, thinking the more money we spend, the more it will improve. That would be like throwing a plate of food at a wall and hoping it will stick.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:29 PM
 
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Here's how people make money: Lower taxes.

Lower taxes means more money in people's pockets and checking accounts. Otherwise, the government's not doing anybody any favors.

Cut taxes. Now, is that hard??

Uh-oh, cutting taxes is a great way to redistribute wealth - upward.

The Reagan Tax Cuts let me keep more of what I earned - and let every other earner keep even more of what they earned. People took their tax cuts and bid up housing prices and rents - I faced five rent increases in five years, was priced out and had to move three times, and spent Reagan's last four months in office living in my employer's offsite rented storage.

I don't think I can afford any more tax cuts.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:32 PM
 
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Liberals suggest that we keep spending more money on failed government programs, thinking the more money we spend, the more it will improve. That would be like throwing a plate of food at a wall and hoping it will stick.

When rents necessarily skyrocket and wages stagnate, food stamp spending goes up. That program cannot "solve" anything as long as landlords raise rents faster than food stamps can keep up.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Poverty is relative especially when some of those claiming poverty have the latest Iphones, high-speed internet service, and a state of the art flat-screen TV.
High speed internet can be cheap as 20 dollars a month depending on where you live. and a new iphone is like 27 dollars a month on ATT.

And heck, you can get a new tv from one of those rent to own places for 10 dollars a month.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:33 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Homelessness and overall poverty keeps increasing. Liberals say give the politicians more money and they'll fix it. Yet we already transfer $7 trillion from the working class to the politicians and the result I always see is a larger welfare class. Ok, you want to elect Bernie Sanders and have him take 99% of Bill Gates's money. Then what? Give it to bums to spend on cigarettes and booze? Give to high school grads to get useless college degrees? Give it to worthless solar panel companies like Solyndra? What kind of stupid plan is that? Liberals are trying to create a real Atlas Shrugged situation where all clowns in D.C. take the producing class's money and society collapses due to resource misallocation.

Gross and net revenues... Our federal government's liabilities is almost 3 times that.

Unfunded liabilities is somewhere around 120 trillion. Money government has already spent, with no money to pay for it.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:35 PM
 
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Bingo.
"Poverty" in this country is not the same as "poverty" in the third world.

Because Americans impose higher living standards - and costs - on the poor than the poor might prefer.

e.g. I might prefer to live in a tent or a hovel, but zoning rules won't let me do that.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:54 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Homelessness and overall poverty keeps increasing. Liberals say give the politicians more money and they'll fix it. Yet we already transfer $7 trillion from the working class to the politicians and the result I always see is a larger welfare class. Ok, you want to elect Bernie Sanders and have him take 99% of Bill Gates's money. Then what? Give it to bums to spend on cigarettes and booze? Give to high school grads to get useless college degrees? Give it to worthless solar panel companies like Solyndra? What kind of stupid plan is that? Liberals are trying to create a real Atlas Shrugged situation where all clowns in D.C. take the producing class's money and society collapses due to resource misallocation.

Yup.
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Old 05-24-2017, 07:16 AM
 
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Liberals suggest that we keep spending more money on failed government programs, thinking the more money we spend, the more it will improve. That would be like throwing a plate of food at a wall and hoping it will stick.
I would agree that there is a limit to what can be done, I suppose there is a law of diminishing returns at play here.


However, I would not want to return to the kind of America we had before 1929. Most of these programs are in place to alleviate genuine suffering.
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