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It was not intended to be a museum depicting either the farm (whether you want to call it a plantation or not) or the Confederacy per se. It was specifically located there as a museum for the battle fought on the farm and included both Union and Confederate artifacts.
The museum is 7 or 8 years old, older than the Confederate States of American itself.
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The battle was fought at the farm, confirmed with documentation in historical documents and artifacts found there.
There is no reason that the park could not be used for recreational purposes without launching an attack on the museum. I understand that Clemmons finds any flag associated with the Confederacy to be offensive; however, what she did to the museum was ill advised and divisive.
The donor who provided the artifacts has the right to remove them. Why should he provide them if the county is not going to support the museum? ...
Not claiming there wasn't a battle there, there are battlefields in many Southern States. Along with the plantations upon which the economy was based & the sine qua non cause of the American Civil War, i.e. enslavement based on race.
I don't think anyone is claiming Mr. Dodd didn't have the right to remove his personal property because he didn't like being told to take his flag down from United States of American property.
& frankly, the reporting on this particular controversy is a bit sketchy - more like 'he said, she said'. & a few things seem just downright wrong or strange or even ironic like this reporting of the rally:
Flag rally held at Nash Farm Battlefield Saturday
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HAMPTON — An estimated 250 people peacefully rallied Saturday morning at Nash Farm Battlefield to show support for its museum with many aiming to take a stand for their southern heritage.
The rally, organized by the Confederate States of America, was in response to this week’s announcement that Nash Farm Battlefield Museum would close after District 2 Commissioner Dee Clemmons reportedly told museum volunteers the Confederate flags must be removed from inside the building. ...
Many Confederate-hyphen-Americans said as much or the like after losing their alleged right to own people as property & resisting the Civil Rights for all American people for over 100 years.
The history of those enslaved has been erased while revising history to present the Lost Cause while ignoring or denying the realities.
Kinda ironic isn't it. The Democrats want to bring in Muslims, the creator of slavery in the USA.
The museum is 7 or 8 years old, older than the Confederate States of American itself.
And? What difference does that make? Probably most of the Civil War museums in the US are even older.
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Not claiming there wasn't a battle there, there are battlefields in many Southern States. Along with the plantations upon which the economy was based & the sine qua non cause of the American Civil War, i.e. enslavement based on race.
Another poster stated a battle "might" have been fought there. Clemmons said there was not such a battle. She is wrong.
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I don't think anyone is claiming Mr. Dodd didn't have the right to remove his personal property because he didn't like being told to take his flag down from United States of American property.
Where did you find that Mr. Dodd is the owner of the removed property? As far as I can tell that person has not been identified.
The property is owned by the county, not the federal government. It was obtained by exercise of eminent domain, by the way.
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& frankly, the reporting on this particular controversy is a bit sketchy - more like 'he said, she said'.
Do you have a source that confirms that what the museum representative has said is not true?
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& a few things seem just downright wrong or strange or even ironic like this reporting of the rally:
And? What difference does that make? Probably most of the Civil War museums in the US are even older.
Another poster stated a battle "might" have been fought there. Clemmons said there was not such a battle. She is wrong.
Where did you find that Mr. Dodd is the owner of the removed property? As far as I can tell that person has not been identified.
The property is owned by the county, not the federal government. It was obtained by exercise of eminent domain, by the way.
Do you have a source that confirms that what the museum representative has said is not true?
Take that one up with the reporter. The rally was not organized by the "CSA".
Personally not losing any sleep over the veracity of the reporting of yet another controversy surrounding the removal of a Confederate flag from American public land.
After all, the sheer number of rallies & protests (173) across the United States of America in support of the divisive symbol of the Confederacy in the 2 months following the Charleston Church shootings & murders would've left me virtually sleepless:
All 173 Confederate flag rallies since the Charleston massacre, mapped
The reportings on this particular controversy are, imho, those of the 'He said, She said' category. Apparently the museum had 1 donor for most of its Confederate artifact & that donor voluntarily chose to 'take his ball & go home' because he chose not to follow the rules. Either way one observes, it's still a case of the museum voluntarily closing its doors after being asked to remove the Confederate flag from American public land.
If only the Confederacy had voluntarily chosen to do the same.
On this Memorial Day, a USA federal holiday observed in remembrance of the people who died while serving in our Country's armed forces, it's worth noting there are a number of States who choose to observe a separate Memorial Day.
Confederate Memorial Day is observed to honor those who died while fighting against the United States of America.
Personally not losing any sleep over the veracity of the reporting of yet another controversy surrounding the removal of a Confederate flag from American public land.
After all, the sheer number of rallies & protests (173) across the United States of America in support of the divisive symbol of the Confederacy in the 2 months following the Charleston Church shootings & murders would've left me virtually sleepless:
All 173 Confederate flag rallies since the Charleston massacre, mapped
The reportings on this particular controversy are, imho, those of the 'He said, She said' category. Apparently the museum had 1 donor for most of its Confederate artifact & that donor voluntarily chose to 'take his ball & go home' because he chose not to follow the rules. Either way one observes, it's still a case of the museum voluntarily closing its doors after being asked to remove the Confederate flag from American public land.
If only the Confederacy had voluntarily chosen to do the same.
On this Memorial Day, a USA federal holiday observed in remembrance of the people who died while serving in our Country's armed forces, it's worth noting there are a number of States who choose to observe a separate Memorial Day.
Confederate Memorial Day is observed to honor those who died while fighting against the United States of America.
What rules? Can you cite a source?
What "he said, she said"? Do you think Clemmons did not want all Confederate flags removed from inside the museum?
Should every museum on public land that includes any flags from the Confederacy in its collection remove them?
Clemmons made a mistake. She wanted the museum gone because she has plans for the park that do not include it. She has now alienated a segment of her constituency. If she had wanted to be inclusive, rather than divisive, she could have approached the museum with a suggestion that exhibits be developed that featured African Americans during the Civil War. She chose not to do that.
Wiping out the flag will not make the history go away.
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