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Old 05-28-2017, 11:18 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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It looks like everyone is arguing from their biases again when we don't have many facts to go on. If he stabbed the individuals just because they told him to shut up it's murder. If the individuals assaulted him he could walk.
It looks like he got punched more than once.... and he is no skin head.


Preliminary information indicates that the suspect was on the MAX train yelling various remarks that would best be characterized as hate speech toward a variety of ethnicities and religions. At least two of the victims attempted to intervene with the suspect and calm him down. The suspect attacked the men, stabbing three, before leaving the train.


Ya, no threats to harm him were made, he just went off, without the main focus of his "hate" unharmed.


https://www.portlandoregon.gov/polic...149&ch=twitter


Zimmerman got off, with just one guy, getting physical over words.

 
Old 05-28-2017, 11:18 AM
 
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"and cam him down" Ya, right. You need to shut up right now, or else.....
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It looks like everyone is arguing from their biases again
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Old 05-28-2017, 11:18 AM
 
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This person obviously had a problem but all this hateful anti-Muslim rhetoric coming from a president helps push them over the top, if the president is living in fear then why shouldn't he. We saw the same thing during the election with the crazy person killing those people at the Planned Parenthood Clinic in Colorado because of all the ridiculous statements.


They are not much different than the Islamic terrorists that recruit for the holy war. Words have meaning particularly when they come from a president.
The president says the truth and he does not send the hate speech
The president maintains his native America
America is democratic
If you believe in a democratic America, you have to discuss why it says Islamic terrorism
Has there been any Buddhist terrorism or terrorism in the world?
Therefore, terrorism is a characteristic of Islamic ideology
 
Old 05-28-2017, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
It looks like he got punched more than once.... and he is no skin head.


Preliminary information indicates that the suspect was on the MAX train yelling various remarks that would best be characterized as hate speech toward a variety of ethnicities and religions. At least two of the victims attempted to intervene with the suspect and calm him down. The suspect attacked the men, stabbing three, before leaving the train.


Ya, no threats to harm him were made, he just went off, without the main focus of his "hate" unharmed.


https://www.portlandoregon.gov/polic...149&ch=twitter


Zimmerman got off, with just one guy, getting physical over words.
Still no source for your knife remark?
 
Old 05-28-2017, 11:34 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Still no source for your knife remark?


A Muslim man not yet identified, first confronted Jeremy Christian to defend Islam and pulled a knife and punched him in the face with the other hand......

Now Identified as: Taliesin Myrddin Namkai Meche





Jeremy Joseph Christian


https://www.portlandoregon.gov/polic...149&ch=twitter
 
Old 05-28-2017, 11:38 AM
 
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A Muslim man not yet identified, first confronted Jeremy Christian to defend Islam and pulled a knife and punched him in the face with the other hand......
Nothing in your link backs up that piece of your narrative. But of course you will claim "I was just identifying him".....

Bentbow these tactics of yours to mislead people are just not right.
 
Old 05-28-2017, 11:38 AM
 
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Still no source for your knife remark?
BB has created a scene in his head for what he believes happened.

He hasn't stated it, but I'll assume that it's something like this:
Christian verbally assaults two women on the train.
One or more bystanders interject themselves into the situation by saying, "Shut the **** up or you're I'm going to kick your ass".
Christian doesn't shut up.
The bystanders threaten Christian (possibly with a knife, or the knife is brought out during the ensuing struggle).
Christian overwhelms the bystanders and leaves the train.

That could certainly be exactly what happened.



It could also have gone differently.
Christian verbally assaults two women on the train.
One or more bystanders repeatedly ask Christian to stop.
Christian becomes more belligerent.
One or more of the bystanders places himself between Christian and the women.
Christian pulls a knife and attacks the bystanders and rushes off of the train.



Or
Christian verbally assaults two women on the train.
One or more bystanders repeatedly ask Christian to stop.
Christian becomes more belligerent.
One or more of the bystanders places himself between Christian and the women.
Christian physically threatens, or attacks, the bystanders.
One of the bystanders, feeling threatened, or being attacked, pulls his knife his knife in defense.
Christian takes the knife and kills the bystanders and jumps off the train.


Or many other possibilities.

I don't know which it was.

No one here does.

Whichever event one believes is more/less likely is a product of their biases
 
Old 05-28-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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I agree. Born in 1955, I certainly grew up knowing that racism was all around. With the advent of camcorders, smart phones and such, it is simply being better documented.

Rather like those instances of police brutality against blacks. It was certainly common back when I was a youth, but the police would always claim that the person was 'resisting arrest'. It was astonishing how many black males, just here in Fort Worth, would 'resist arrest', with the testimony of witnesses (usually black) counting for nothing.

Is overt acts of racism up? Really, impossible to know. It is certainly better documented.
The Islamic faith also has religious discrimination in the countries that govern it
Racial discrimination is based on color
But religious discrimination based on religion
They are both racist
The concept( al-theme)
This term is the core of religious discrimination in Muslim countries
And also the term(al-weelaee)
These terms are defined by President Trump
All have knowledge of Islamic ideology
My first practical proof is that a Christian can not become president in any Arab country
While Obama, a Muslim in the subcontinent, became president of the United States
 
Old 05-28-2017, 11:40 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fYt9N51r0U
 
Old 05-28-2017, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Nothing in your link backs up that piece of your narrative. But of course you will claim "I was just identifying him".....

Bentbow these tactics of yours to mislead people are just not right.
I think a lot of us know this poster has zero credibility.
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