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Old 05-28-2017, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Not a starvation wage for someone that lives at home with family ..
Or someone that is married or lives with others and looking to bring in some extra money.
At the time the minimum wage law was passed, the average household only had one person working, women generally didn't work in the 1930's. So it was indeed passed to be a living wage
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Old 05-28-2017, 01:48 PM
 
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So pickle tossers are entitled to a living wage which will support a family? How low should the bar be set?
Pickle tossers? Is that how you see people who struggle everyday to take care of those with Alzheimer's disease?
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Old 05-28-2017, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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This shows that Dems are really out of touch on the economy . A $15 national minimum wage would be disastrous especially in smaller towns.

$15 even for bigger cities is risky . Employers have already stated they intend to cut back on labor and automate as much as they can .
Unemployment is likely to go way up with a $15 min wage because demand for labor would go down .
It would add more risk for a business and getting info business is risky enough .

Of course not all businesses are the type that mostly employ min wage workers but a ton of them are .

It will make it harder for the poor to find jobs too .
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Pelosi: Dems will pass $15 minimum wage if we take power - POLITICO

If republican business owners eliminate jobs because of increased minimum wages, then they will lose revenue and some might fail. Smart employers would learn to use higher-paid employees to their advantage and grow their businesses. Just like those companies that accepted and adopted anti-pollution regulations and discovered that clean industries make higher profits.
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Old 05-28-2017, 01:51 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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Pickle tossers? Is that how you see people who struggle everyday to take care of those with Alzheimer's disease?
I use that to describe those with no real marketable skills. If the shoe fits....
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Old 05-28-2017, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Tell me where Sanders said that health are workers are fraudsters. Thats an absurd statement that requires proof.

Tell me what you want? You think $15 by 2024 is too much obviously, even though it was $11 in 1969 in 2015 dollars. Do you think $12 by 2024 is enough?

Thats still a DECLINE in the minimum wage fro 1969. So 55 years later and a DECLINE in the minimum wage.
See: https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsr...-review-031910

BTW, this hasn't happened yet, and it's been 8 weeks: Bernie Sanders To Introduce Single-Payer Health Care Bill In U.S. Senate | Vermont Public Radio

The Colorado law will raise minimum wage to $12/hr by 2020, and then it will be indexed to inflation. Who knows what that will be by 2024?
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Old 05-28-2017, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Democrats love to put people out of work.

It looks like your employment contract has been renewed, after some absence.
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Old 05-28-2017, 01:54 PM
 
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I use that to describe those with no real marketable skills. If the shoe fits....
Good to know you like to mock your fellow hard working American, just struggling to survive. Perhaps yourself might get a disease and the so-called "pickle tossers" have to take care of you 24/7?
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Old 05-28-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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So where is the link that says Sanders called all health care workers fraudsters? Its an absurd statement.

You still havent told me what you want? You obviously support the same or lower minimum wage for struggling Americans in 2024 than in 1969, 55 years ago, but how low?
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Old 05-28-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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It's never going to happen.

Ask yourself this question. Do you want a couple of 30 story apartment towers going up down the street from you? If you said no, then that's why the COL is never going to go down
I've already lived in an area with 30 story apartment buildings up and down the street from me. And?

Is the cost of living in NYC cheaper than other places? Seems to me those 30 story apartment buildings do not cut the COL expenses. Nor do they cut the COL in Miami.
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Old 05-28-2017, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I've already lived in an area with 30 story apartment buildings up and down the street from me. And?
What I described is happening in a lot of cities. Including San Francisco, where high rise and even midrise apartments get blocked time and again by neighborhood opposition because "it will destroy my views" or "it will change the neighborhood".
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