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Old 05-28-2017, 07:59 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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And should only be taxed on those that elected the Idiot. So what happened to Mexico paying for this monstrosity, don't tell me that the Donald Lied, he would never do that, would he.
^ this ... if Trump supporters want their monument to ignorance than they should pay for it. Maybe Donny can start a GoFundMe page.
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Old 05-28-2017, 08:01 PM
 
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American's protecting themselves with a wall scares the left to death obviously. I should be surprised but by now I am not....they put the wants of foreigners above the needs and wants of Americans.
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Old 05-28-2017, 08:14 PM
 
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^ this ... if Trump supporters want their monument to ignorance than they should pay for it. Maybe Donny can start a GoFundMe page.
The corrupt Mexican government, the Mexican narco drug traffickers and the American left all agree we do not need a wall.

The Mexican government wants to easily send their citizens over the border. Their remittances line the governments pockets. The drug traffickers want an easy passageway to move Heroin, Meth and Cocaine. The left just does not get the realities of all this.
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Old 05-28-2017, 08:21 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The cost to build a wall will not stop enough of the illegals or drugs to make it worth the expense.

Enforce the laws in place and keep a dialog with the Mexican government. Trump went there during his campaign and then blows it once he became President.
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Old 05-28-2017, 08:23 PM
 
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American's protecting themselves with a wall scares the left to death obviously. I should be surprised but by now I am not....they put the wants of foreigners above the needs and wants of Americans.
Funny both Ronald Reagan and George Bush agreed in a debate many years ago that a wall between the US and Mexico was wrong for many reasons. While Democrats agreed to a wall while trying to get comprehensive immigration passed.
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Old 05-28-2017, 08:24 PM
 
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyph.../#5f8874905f88

This bill should be at the top of the to do list for ANY politician interested in helping America and Americans stay safe.
Wrong. Mexico is paying for it, remember? There better not be a tax.
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Old 05-28-2017, 08:25 PM
 
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Funny both Ronald Reagan and George Bush agreed in a debate many years ago that a wall between the US and Mexico was wrong for many reasons. While Democrats agreed to a wall while trying to get comprehensive immigration passed.
Reagan and Bush were globalists. I didn't like either of them and neither cared for America like they were supposed to. Democrats agreed because they knew it would never happen. By now you would think that the usual spin isn't what people want to hear from the democrats...
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Old 05-28-2017, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Eastern UP of Michigan
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Reagan and Bush were globalists. I didn't like either of them and neither cared for America like they were supposed to. Democrats agreed because they knew it would never happen. By now you would think that the usual spin isn't what people want to hear from the democrats...


HOW DARE YOU say that the patron saint of all things great and American was a globalist. You have besmirched the name of the Reagan mangod.
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Old 05-28-2017, 08:53 PM
 
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The cost to build a wall will not stop enough of the illegals or drugs to make it worth the expense.

Enforce the laws in place and keep a dialog with the Mexican government. Trump went there during his campaign and then blows it once he became President.
We have fencing along much of the border but vast sections are open. It needs to be reinforced and 100% complete.

Illegal drug use health care costs, lost productivity law enforcment and legal costs are $180 billion dollars a year in the US. If the border wall cuts 10% down on that number it more than pays for itself. Already Trump's tough talk and increased arrests by ICE has cut illegal border traffic way down.

What are we going to say to the Mexican government? They want the flow of illegals and drugs to keep coming into the US. Remittances and Illegal Drug trafficking are the two of the biggest segments of the Mexican economy. Bigger than oil or tourism.
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Old 05-28-2017, 09:23 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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We have fencing along much of the border but vast sections are open. It needs to be reinforced and 100% complete.

Illegal drug use health care costs, lost productivity law enforcment and legal costs are $180 billion dollars a year in the US. If the border wall cuts 10% down on that number it more than pays for itself. Already Trump's tough talk and increased arrests by ICE has cut illegal border traffic way down.

What are we going to say to the Mexican government? They want the flow of illegals and drugs to keep coming into the US. Remittances and Illegal Drug trafficking are the two of the biggest segments of the Mexican economy. Bigger than oil or tourism.

Look at what Chapo build to escape from prison, they will find another way to enter the country. The areas that don't have a wall is probably because of the impact to the people along the border. They might just come from Canada, I know someone in Fort Fairfield ME that says it is already happening.

I don't know what they would say to Mexico, I don't have the clearance to know the whole story. I do know that the Cartel runs most of the country from what I was told from the illegals I worked with.

The money for the wall would be better spent hiring more border patrol and infrastructure to deal with who is already here.
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