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Old 05-30-2017, 04:57 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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The far right wants to subvert the First Amendment and establish a Christian nation. They want to control what people do with their genitals and who they can marry. They want to censor the entertainment industry to make it more family friendly. They support ramping up the war on drugs and want to make sure marijuana stays illegal. Many of them haven't even moved past alcohol prohibition yet (visit Oklahoma and you'll see what I am talking about). Basically other than the Second Amendment, they are for bigger government because they believe its government's job to protect and enforce traditional values. The far-right also clings to the outdated notion of white, straight, male, and Christian superiority and believe everyone else should just suck it up and deal with being second class citizens. On Trump, the far-right tends to dismiss all negative coverage of him as "fake news" and holds him to an almost Messianic standard.

The far left on the other hand wants to stifle free speech when it doesn't conform to their ideal utopia of social justice and whitewash our history. They want their own censorship of the entertainment industry to make sure social justice causes are promoted and to censor anything that is politically incorrect. They want to punish actors and businesses who hold to ideologies they don't agree with. They also think making it more difficult for a law-abiding citizen to obtain a firearm will help prevent crime (it won't, they can just go to the black market). While I do agree with liberal ideology for the most part, most social justice warriors take it way too far. We live in a nation of 300 million people from all different backgrounds and heritages. On Trump, the far left is crying wolf way too much and that is only helping Trump and casting doubts into the issues we should legitimately be worried about. The liberal cause would be better served by picking their battles and focusing on things that are actually legitimate concerns about him.

Unfortunately, in our media all we see are the extremes of both sides. Can we all agree that both extremes are dangerous and un-American? Can we agree that just because somebody identifies as liberal or conservative doesn't mean the fall into one of these two extremes and that most Americans are center-left, centrist, or center-right?
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Old 05-30-2017, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Yes I agree.
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:15 PM
 
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Can we all agree that the extremists on both sides are authoritarian and anti-American?
No.

The right is PRO-America. Nationalist.

The left is anti-borders, anti-American, destruction of American culture, raise taxes, more government, anti-free speech, etc.
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:21 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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Extremists is not a stable term. It means many things to many people. Some of those things you call extreme may be thought to be normal to many people. Lawless people are un-American. Our nation was founded on laws that apply to everybody. That leaves illegals out. They are not us.
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:24 PM
 
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No.

The right is PRO-America. Nationalist.

The left is anti-borders, anti-American, destruction of American culture, raise taxes, more government, anti-free speech, etc.
This view is on the extreme side which the original poster was aluding to. By being so anti left, this can easily lead to authoritarian behavior.
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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This view is on the extreme side which the original poster was aluding to. By being so anti left, this can easily lead to authoritarian behavior.
No. My post is the truth. Truth = the middle. If you want to characterize the middle as "extreme right" then you are extreme.
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:29 PM
 
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Vast generalizations always make for poor arguments.
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:30 PM
 
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Extremists is not a stable term. It means many things to many people. Some of those things you call extreme may be thought to be normal to many people. Lawless people are un-American. Our nation was founded on laws that apply to everybody. That leaves illegals out. They are not us.
What if those laws involve collectism. Say large companies being forced to give more to taxes. If they refused to do this would they also be lawless and unAmerican.

Or what if gun laws were tougher. Would someone refusing to turn in guns that are banned also be lawless and unAmerican.
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:33 PM
 
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No. My post is the truth. Truth = the middle. If you want to characterize the middle as "extreme right" then you are extreme.
The problem is who speaks the truth. The left claims to know the truth and the right claims to know the truth. Using math it would seem that the truth is somewhere's in the middle.
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