Kabul: at least 80 killed by massive car bomb in diplomatic quarter (Clinton, Obama)
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Originally Posted by cremebrulee
Bush sold the war as being important, b/c they were supposed to have weapons of mass destruction. They didn't. But Bush went into Iraq and ended up in Afghanistan....he diverted b/c he had a whole different mission in mind.
No, he went into Afghanistan first
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I really disagreed with what he did for many reasons, but once there, we should have stayed there, b/c we were making progress.
How so? WHAT was happening that benefited America?
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What Americans do not understand is, if we want to control and stop terrorists, we will always have to have a prensence in the middle east, just like we have in Germany,
No, we have to defend ourselves, nothing else. The ME is a cesspool and has been since before the US was formed. If they can't learn to live together let them die together, not our problem.
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and for Obama, to take our military out, gave rise to ISIS, not to mention, was an insult to those young boys who lost their lives over there, for what....? To pull out now...? That was so wrong. Then he leaves some there, wide open for attack. Stupid.
Taking Saddam Hussein out gave rise to ISIS. And WHAT is the point of leaving more troops in a war zone we don't belong in? Just HOW does that change the deaths that already occurred? HOW does it give them any more purpose?
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We expect everything to happen over night and it never does....and we never learn. Sad.
It takes an overweight, mountain dew guzzling, video gaming American teen 9 weeks to become a well trained infantry soldier in our United States Army.
And yet, after 16 YEARS of our presence in Iraq and Afghanistan, the soldiers there cannot do even the most basics of simple marching, yet alone perform independent infantry tactics?
Utterly ridiculous, as well as those who think we still have to hold their hands over there.
According to our Rules of Engagement, soldiers in a combat zone are told to hold their fire unless there is evidence of hostile action or direct hostile intent.
We all knew the terrorists utilized fighters on motorcycles and cell phones as scout/trackers. If there are enemy combatants reporting your patrol movements in order to facilitate an attack, how is that not hostile intent?
The rules of engagement in Iraq prohibited the military from entering mosques, treating them always as sacred sites instead of what they often were, namely, weapons storehouses and bases of operations for Iraqi insurgents and their allies in foreign terrorist organizations.
There is no winning in ME when you fight such a war.
Bring them home and let the Muslims figure things out themselves.
In this country, you have idiots saying everyday that, "Oh, if we don't bomb the hospital or school, they won't join the terrorist group." Can't win. Just come back home already.
And about that budget. Trump chided other nations for not meeting the 2% quota on their defense budget but maybe they are better at finances than the Pentagon is. just saying.....
Why did these isis people kill their own Muslims?!
Shocking, isnt it?
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