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Old 06-03-2017, 12:03 PM
 
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This is true. Obama should have taken it to the senate and he did not.
If Obama had taken it to Senate he would have been lucky to get 1/3 approval let alone the 2/3's required. Trump has only nixed what would have been failure to pass to begin with.
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:04 PM
 
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... "after 85 years."

All the words matter, not just the ones you find useful.
Again, for that to happen, the earth would be a furnace at the sea level!!!!
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:04 PM
 
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It must be so important at the global level that it just slipped Obama's mind!
I think Obama assumed that Clinton would be the next president and that she would look after it. That was his mistake. I don't think it ever occurred to Obama that Trump would win the election.
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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... "after 85 years."

All the words matter, not just the ones you find useful.


Good GOD! If the average temperature on earth went from 59 F to 85 F, it would take about 5,000 years to melt all of the ice on earth... NOT 85 years!

Where do you people come from?



Look... If you CAGW idiots are really so concerned about the US having pulled out of the Paris Accord, you can achieve the exact same results yourself. Let me show you how.

Out of the 300 million people in the US, approximately 50 million (43-44 or so) CAGW idiots voted for Hillary Clinton to be President. If it was 50 million, each of you would need to send $200, but since it was a little less, let's just bump it up to $250.00 per year for the next 10 years to the UN which will be managing the redistribution of money. Then... all you need to do is have the electricity, gas, propane, etc. to your homes and businesses turned off. This will mean that approximately 30% or so less electricity is needed so less will be generated which will reduce national CO2 outputs by 30% or so. BUT... to show that you are REALLY committed, stop using all of your cars, trucks, boats, motorcycles, lawn mowers and any other items you use that require gasoline or diesel. Then while you're at it, stop purchasing food and STUFF because all those goods need to be shipped, typically by motorized vehicles, and that is part of that 30% CO2 output.

That's right... in essence all you need to do is cease to exist, (so you'll actually need to send the full $2500 up front, otherwise you won't have completed your end of the financial burden of the Paris Accord) then just wither and die. Then and only then, after taking those steps, just before you and your families die, you can proclaim from your high horse that you cared enough to "do something" about climate change.

Until you've taken those steps just shut the hell up because the rest of us want to go on about our lives, knowing that this CAGW scam is nothing more than politically correct, critical theory portion of cultural Marxism designed to bring about the downfall of Western Civilization as we know it.

That's right... all you have to do is put up or shut up. What's the matter? Don't you care about climate change, the environment and the planet? Do YOUR part or shut the hell up about your demands that others "Do Something!"
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:08 PM
 
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Yes, I trust the Guardian news. I don't rely on wordpress blogs for news. I haven't bought into Trump's earnest efforts to have people view news as "fake".
I don't trust anybody. I use my own brain. Not sure what worldpress you are talking about.

Just explain to me that when we can't even predict tomorrow's local weather accurately, how could we predict the weather 100 years down the road?
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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I think Obama assumed that Clinton would be the next president and that she would look after it. That was his mistake. I don't think it ever occurred to Obama that Trump would win the election.
It's so important that he doesn't even want to do it himself.
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:10 PM
 
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Again, for that to happen, the earth would be a furnace at the sea level!!!!
Looking forward to cool storms in the USA this year!

"The 2017 Atlantic hurricane season is forecast to be more active than historical averages with regard to the number of named storms, according to the latest forecasts released by Colorado State University, the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration and The Weather Company, an IBM Business.

The 30-year historical average (1981-2010) for the Atlantic Basin is 12 named storms, six hurricanes and three major hurricanes. A major hurricane is of Category 3 strength or higher on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale.

NOAA issued its forecast at the end of May and called for:

Eleven to 17 named storms – including April's Tropical Storm Arlene.
Five to nine of which would become hurricanes.
Two to four of which would become major hurricanes."

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane...er-company-may
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:13 PM
 
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Looking forward to cool storms in the USA this year!

"The 2017 Atlantic hurricane season is forecast to be more active than historical averages with regard to the number of named storms, according to the latest forecasts released by Colorado State University, the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration and The Weather Company, an IBM Business.

The 30-year historical average (1981-2010) for the Atlantic Basin is 12 named storms, six hurricanes and three major hurricanes. A major hurricane is of Category 3 strength or higher on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale.

NOAA issued its forecast at the end of May and called for:

Eleven to 17 named storms – including April's Tropical Storm Arlene.
Five to nine of which would become hurricanes.
Two to four of which would become major hurricanes."

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane...er-company-may
What's 1 year divided by 6 billion years?

Do you understand standard deviation and variance?

http://www.mathsisfun.com/data/standard-deviation.html
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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I don't trust anybody. I use my own brain. Not sure what worldpress you are talking about.

Just explain to me that when we can't even predict tomorrow's local weather accurately, how could we predict the weather 100 years down the road?
The weather for tomorrow and the coming week is always accurately predicted where I live. Perhaps the weather reporter in your area needs to be replaced.

One of the foundations of graduate attributes for university students is knowing how to consult the experts ... as opposed to trusting no one.
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Why are you linking to a wordpress site?
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I trust the Guardian news. I don't rely on wordpress blogs for news.
I evaluate any source for its agenda, perspective, expertise, etc. The Guardian isn't automatically worthy of trust -- in fact, these huge news organizations are frequently mouthpieces for the status quo and steeped in agenda. An individual writer / observer isn't automatically worthy of trust either, but there are many who speak truth against the power of the mad wave of mainstream conformity.

If you wouldn't consider something like a set of mathematical formulas laid out in defense of a counter-argument on a blog, then WHY are you even discussing this on City Data Forums?
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...the USA doesn't care about the damaging impact on all other countries...
It's cute, I guess, that you think this wasn't about knocking the US down a peg, that you think all the other countries will meet their voluntary requirements, and that you think if we just have enough top-down authority we can impact long-term planetary climate. You have a lot of faith.
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I think Obama assumed that Clinton would be the next president and that she would look after it. I don't think it ever occurred to Obama that Trump would win the election.
Yup, he assumed the annointed one would assume the throne and that the wave of global statist leadership could not be stopped.
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