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No, you can actually develop things without the government. I know that is news to liberals.
Sure, you can. Did I say you can't? How about less labels, and actually address the words that I write? IS that really so hard?.......geez.
But we subsidize many, many industries - there's no reason we can't here, too. Subsidization doesn't necesarilly mean "investment from the government".
And as I already pointed out, waiting for "the market" to solve this is going to be too little, too late. The market will not react to this until fossil fuels are too expensive to warrant more usage. But that is likely a few decades from now...the market doesn't care about climate change, so why would you rely on it to solve this problem?
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How did Solyndra work out?
There are many failed companies in many industries - I'm not sure what this proves...other than the fact that companies sometimes fails, for many reasons.
That doesn't change the argument that if we care about this issue, and want to see our country become a leader in the future energy technology space, we should subsidize and encourage investment in it (from private entities - hey look! I can use your talking points!!!).
As China does - after all, your argument above was "china will do it cheaper" - well, have you thought to answer the question why that is? And do you think beyond just pure manufacturing? We can be leaders in this space in many ways, least of which being the people that actually develop the new technologies (even if we don't literally produce everything here).
Many of those laws only exist because of lobbying from big business.
You mean because GOVERNMENT voted them in while taking favors/money from those big business?
Government is RESPONSIBLE here, they had the power to not accept such from big business, make no mistake, Big business is powerless without government providing for it.
Don't you find it odd that the Clintons and Obama run around making 100's of thousands of dollars giving speeches to the companies they spent their terms in office denouncing?
Nah, you don't... because you approve, as long as it aids the cause right? End justifies the means?
Many of those laws only exist because of lobbying from big business.
Exactly. Almost all laws we have on the books were lobbied by someone from a massive corporation. Politicians can of course say no to lobbyists, but they like $$$$ more than integrity.
Government and big business are just two sides to the same coin.
Reports are that Trump will pull out of the Paris Accords on Climate Change. If true it is devastating news for our children and he has effectively destroyed US credibility around the world. Be prepared for furious reaction from around the globe.
The USA now become a backward looking nation rather than one facing the future. Trump continues to bring us down.
Excellent news if it is true. Our leaders have NO BUSINESS tying our economy to the mediocrity of the rest of the world. If we want to reduce emissions, we can do that on our own with free market principles. We don't need third world socialist collectivist mediocratic peoples ordering us to curtail our economy. Eff that. Really. Good decision, I hope we pull out of the Paris Accord, and light it on fire so that it can emit greenhouse gases in protest.
Maybe because governments lie to us all the time. Maybe because governments sole objective is to control the people and raise revenue.
Governments kill us, enslave us, take our money, tell us what we can eat, drink, and smoke. Governments tell us how we can spend our money, what products we can sell, when we can sell them, where we can sell them. Governments tell us where we can go, what we can buy, what jobs we can work.
Governments send our kids to war to protect their comfy positions and wealth.
And you trust government? Why?
Yeah and corporations are owned by individuals (mostly) so bad press hurts their value and can eventually shut down company or at least make those in charge accountable.
BP had to have a massive sell off of assets after deep water horizon. they spend a F ton on maintenance and inspection work now.
Govt f's up and they're still there. Was anyone from the EPA accountable for the Animas river disaster? EPA is still there.
You are not going to inform yourself by relying on material produced by activists. You were lied to by the director of that movie. There is historical documentation of methane in the water in that are going back almost 100 years. Any other place that has methane in the water has historically had methane in the water.
You don't have to believe me, you can hear right from the mouth of the Josh Fox.
Not sure if it's the exact turning point but it certainly was the straw that broke the camels back as the saying goes. In 2009 when the Democrats controlled the House they passed an energy bill that would of made Obamacare look like child's play. A bill I might add that had a 300 page amendment added at 3AM on the day it was to be voted on. To paraphrase the one House Democrat, "I felt like I just walked the plank for the Democrat leadership." I don't even think it made it out committee in the Senate it was so overwhelmingly bad. This along with Obamacare is what set off the Democrat's demise.
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