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Old 05-31-2017, 09:10 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Dems should be seething with rage they crowned her KNOWING what an awful person she was. Trump is awful too but has a hook she lacks.

Any better Dem would have had a walkover vs Trump. The GOP gave them a home run derby pitch and they struck out.
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:19 AM
 
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I agree that Trump is a horrible President but Hillary didn't lose because of Russian tampering. She needs to get over it. She lost because she was beaten. She didn't try to appeal to working class Americans. She made no mention of keeping jobs in the United States and to stop outsourcing. In fact, she came across as a Wall Street shill.

And then one more important factor to consider: people don't like her. This goes back to the 1990's. People couldn't stand Hillary when she was the first lady. Hillary is unrelatable. She comes across as an uptight snob. Trump may also be an east coast elite like Hillary but at least he is a fun loving fallible guy. Hillary comes across as the ice queen. Unfortunately, a lot of people make decisions based on trivial aspects such as likability as opposed to policy. The Democrats really couldn't get a better candidate than Hillary?
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:21 AM
 
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As someone that would be happy to see President Trump out in 2020, I'm greatly concerned that Hillary continues to control and manipulate the DNC with her loyalists in place and ousting any that may oppose her.

Now she's got a great big warchest after having outspent Trump 2:1 and still losing.

She cheated Bernie too and hasn't come clean on that.

There are many good democratic candidates out there, I'm really worried that Hillary's death grip on the DNC is going to allow her to force herself on democrats while knee-capping any opposition in 2020.

Tell you what, if she ends up in a debate with democrats in the primaries, the first one to say "Great answer Hillary, it's almost as if you'd had days to have someone write up that response." She's hugely damaged goods and needs to make room and not hang on like the Fidel Castro of the DNC.
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:23 AM
 
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No one cares who comes in second. Its the president we worry about.
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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How many Democrats on Capitol Hill do you think will ask her to campaign for them in 2018?
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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His agenda was largely her agenda so I'm not sure what is being accomplished here.
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:48 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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She should be seething with rage at her own incompetent campaign
And soulless,crooked,hypocritical,lazy behavior. Had she actually campaigned in places that she took for granted,not just believed it was her turn AND not believed that she was a shoe in according to all her media sycophants/pollsters she might have won...
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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I think "seething with rage" is quite dramatic.

LOL.

She thinks Trump is every bit the con artist I do, and I'm not seething with rage over it. Why? Wasted energy. Doesn't mean one cannot speak out against him and his merry band of criminals.
Aren't the losers traditionally supposed to go away along with the ex president for at least four years before they start whining and criticising the new administration?
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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Had she simply promised to legalize recreational marijuana her first 100 days in office she'd be president now. There's a number of small things she could have done to win, but she was overconfident. Never be overconfident. What did she bring to the table that was a change from the status quo? She played it too safe during her campaign. Maybe the next democrat nominee in 2020 WILL pledge to legalize recreational marijuana at the federal level, and they'll have an easy win like Hillary could have had. Politics is a game. You play it to win, or you don't. Right now the democrat party as a whole is letting the extreme wing of their party make them look like fools.. they are not playing the game to win. They had better change their strategy. (stop whining and protesting so much and start to strike out deals and compromise with the other side and look sane and rational) Average joes who don't follow politics don't like whiners. Lefties whine too much. They also don't want their free speech curtailed because it might offend someone... so stop acting like you have the holy grail on moral authority and stop the censorship on college campuses.
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:55 AM
 
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Had she simply promised to legalize recreational marijuana her first 100 days in office she'd be president now. There's a number of small things she could have done to win, but she was overconfident. Never be overconfident. What did she bring to the table that was a change from the status quo? She played it too safe during her campaign. Maybe the next democrat nominee in 2020 WILL pledge to legalize recreational marijuana at the federal level, and they'll have an easy win like Hillary could have had. Politics is a game. You play it to win, or you don't. Right now the democrat party as a whole is letting the extreme wing of their party make them look like fools.. they are not playing the game to win. They had better change their strategy. (stop whining and protesting so much and start to strike out deals and compromise with the other side and look sane and rational)
No way her pharmaceutical donors would have allowed her to do that.
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