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Tesla Motors Inc., SolarCity Corp. and Space Exploration Technologies Corp., known as SpaceX, together have benefited from an estimated $4.9 billion in government support, according to data compiled by The Times. The figure underscores a common theme running through his emerging empire: a public-private financing model underpinning long-shot start-ups.
"He definitely goes where there is government money
The Paris deal is crap. Who cheats on gas emission, German cars and Fiat.
Then negotiate for a better one. Pulling out of a deal that is for the better of humankind is just short-sighted. We have to all do our part, can't just say, 'not my problem, am going to continue polluting the earth for profit, screw everyone else....'
China is the #1 polluter in the world and is going to exceed their obligations to the agreement but also profiting from it in the meantime through investment in renewable energy. They will literally leave us in the dust....
Doesn't reflect well on us when we're the 2nd biggest polluters in the world and one that has the wealth to actually do something about it, but refuse to...
No one is surprise by Tesla, SpaceX, and other companies who support the Paris treaty. Those companies stand to gain from the treaty. Can those companies compete without a treaty against non green energy or alternatives to green energy? Elon cares more about the best interest of the corporations he represents than about global warming. Had the companies he represents benefited from not signing the treaty, he would be urging Trump to not sign the treat. This is about the bottom line with global warming as the vehicle to reaching their corporate goals.
What part of Senate Advise and Consent to all Treaty agreements do people not understand? Including Elon Musk. Obama didn't believe the Constitution or the Laws of the USA applied to anything HE personally wanted to do. There is no Paris "deal" without the vote of the US Senate.
It was written to harm the USA and exists only because Obama said it exists.
Big payoff to his buddies and to those that want to harm the US Economy.
Then negotiate for a better one. Pulling out of a deal that is for the better of humankind is just short-sighted. We have to all do our part, can't just say, 'not my problem, am going to continue polluting the earth for profit, screw everyone else....'
China is the #1 polluter in the world and is going to exceed their obligations to the agreement but also profiting from it in the meantime through investment in renewable energy. They will literally leave us in the dust....
Doesn't reflect well on us when we're the 2nd biggest polluters in the world and one that has the wealth to actually do something about it, but refuse to...
If this is really for the "betterment" of humankind, then why does there have to be a deal? Why don't nations just do what's right for the "betterment" of humankind? You don't need to negotiate deals for what is right, you only negotiate deals to get money.
Research and development is heavily funded by federal government.
The primary beneficiary of renewable energy subsidies is production so it's competitive. Elon Musk's solar city for example that buys and installs Chinese made solar panels.
Elon Musk has collected about 2 or 3 billion dollars from taxpayers installing Chinese made solar panels.
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The primary beneficiary of renewable energy subsidies is production so it's competitive. Elon Musk's solar city for example that buys and installs Chinese made solar panels.
So concerned with Tesla but ignoring Big Oil pushing to get out of the Accord .
I don't think big oil gives a rats ass and may even support this. It's not them that will paying the bill for this and fact is they have a captive consumer. Driving coal out of the market will increase demand for narural gas supplied by say Exxon...
I don't blame any business for taking advantage of tax breaks, you'd have to be some kind of fool not to. This doesn't change the fact Elon Musk stands to lose financially if this agreement is nixed.
Bout time someone with some testicles stands up to Trump.
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