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Old 06-05-2017, 11:50 AM
 
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How do you know who people on disability voted for? Even in the states that Trump won Hillary still got a lot of votes. If around half of people on disability voted for Hillary you would have no argument and since there's tons of people on disability in the inner cities...I'm guesstimating Hillary did get at least half of the disabled voters.
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Old 06-05-2017, 11:59 AM
 
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We might also reduce those numbers if we had health insurance for all. Many on disability can work enough to earn $800/month, they just can't risk losing their health insurance. The numbers went up during the recession because those with disabilities are often the last to be hired and the first to be fired. Their disability becomes a significant barrier to employment during tough times. The problem is that once they are on disability, getting off when the economy improves is not easy.
yes, all of that is true too.
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Old 06-05-2017, 12:00 PM
 
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So what does being on disability have to do with Donald Trump? He didn't put them in that situation and they probably have been on it through several presidents.
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Old 06-05-2017, 12:02 PM
 
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I'm not dismissing the difficulty of living with mental health or chronic pain disorders. I'm simply pointing out that the majority of SSDI claims are based on diagnosis that can neither be proven nor disproven. There are no tests.
Since welfare has become nearly impossible to get, SSDI has become the new welfare.
Tests? What in the world are you talking about?
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Old 06-05-2017, 12:02 PM
 
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So what does being on disability have to do with Donald Trump? He didn't put them in that situation and they probably have been on it through several presidents.
so I assume you decided not to read OP or many subsequent comments....
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Old 06-05-2017, 12:08 PM
 
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So what does being on disability have to do with Donald Trump? He didn't put them in that situation and they probably have been on it through several presidents.
Apparently that people receiving disability may or may not have voted for Trump.
And chicken little says Trump is going to throw everyone off disability.

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Old 06-05-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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You'd be surprised at how many people are on SSDI with back pain, depression, fibromyalgia, obesity and asthma.
https://www.nickortizlaw.com/top-10-...ty-disability/
https://www.labovick.com/2016/02/16/...lity-benefits/
https://www.disabilityapprovalguide....bility-claims/
So what, are you claiming they aren't disabled or that we should only give disability to people with certain types of impairment.
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Old 06-05-2017, 12:11 PM
 
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The o.p. makes a great case for ending immoral, insolvent and unsustainible redistribution schemes such as disability,
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Old 06-05-2017, 12:15 PM
 
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So what, are you claiming they aren't disabled or that we should only give disability to people with certain types of impairment.
I'm claiming that disability fraud is rampant because wages are low, welfare is hard to get and we don't have universal basic income
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Old 06-05-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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I'm claiming that disability fraud is rampant because wages are low, welfare is hard to get and we don't have universal basic income
People steal because the govt doesnt steal enough? Interesting theory
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