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Old 06-06-2017, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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Why listen to those idiots? The actual report is online.
I was putting up the links because one of the Posters had never heard of the site...and wanted
legitimate links. (I don't consider Breitbart legitimate news)
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I see you don't have a link either for the first or the second claim.

You have to understand, there is so much BS flying from the left and right around here I honestly cannot trust the majority of claims to be from a legitimate source or even just simply not read correctly or through partisan glasses.

So, how about a source?
Just giving what he might consider legitimate links.
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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But no proof has been released.

If anything, it shows that Hillary Clinton lost because of well..... Hillary Clinton.
What would constitute proof in your eyes, the actual classified document from NSA.


Be honest even if you saw the document you wouldn't believe it was real and you already indicated you don't believe the intelligence agencies, so what else is there to discuss. You are in good company though the president feels the same way.
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:41 PM
 
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U.S. Has Interfered in Foreign Elections Multiple Times
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:54 PM
 
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Do you think that we should lay down and take it?
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:56 PM
 
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Do you think that we should lay down and take it?
If we can't take it then don't dish it out. Turnabout is fair play. All the Lefties thinking Russia is the enemy because of supposed hacking and election interference MUST, in the name of consistency, ALSO think the US falls under those claims as well.
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Old 06-06-2017, 01:44 PM
 
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The story is real
This was all my point was. If the details were fake (as some want to claim), then the punishment for leaking them should be non-existent. Obviously, these leaks are legitimate.
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Old 06-06-2017, 01:46 PM
 
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If we can't take it then don't dish it out. Turnabout is fair play. All the Lefties thinking Russia is the enemy because of supposed hacking and election interference MUST, in the name of consistency, ALSO think the US falls under those claims as well.
It's not logically inconsistent to find both wrong. Why is this about being "left"? You should care, as an American.
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Old 06-06-2017, 01:46 PM
 
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This was all my point was about. If the details were fake (as some want to claim), then the punishment for leaking them should be non-existent. Obviously, these leaks are legitimate.
That's not how it works. The ACT is the crime, just like when the FBI sets up a sting to sell fake explosives to a terrorist.
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Old 06-06-2017, 01:47 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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I'm not buying a word the politicized NSA says about this until I hear some details that can be verified. Not one bit of the big Russian conspiracy has been proven thus far.

The assessment that the Russians hacked the DNC was based off on Crowdstrike's paid report, which later turned out to be factually incorrect, which they've had to edit & apologize for. That story was sketchy from the get-go. Clumsy Russians using Russian keyboards, outdated Russian malware, leaving Russian alphabet characters, only working during Russian business hours, using IP addresses used in previous hacks & servers that trace back directly to Russia....not of that is believable.
https://www.voanews.com/a/cyber-firm...t/3781411.html

Then we found out the CIA created 'umbrage', a program so we can hack people/institutions & plant foreign malware to give the appearance of a foreign government doing it.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...kers/98867462/

We know the DHS attempted to hack several state election systems on election night. They claim they just wanted to see if it could be done & how secure those systems were.
Homeland Security tied to attempted hack of Georgia's election database: Report
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Old 06-06-2017, 01:47 PM
 
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It's not logically inconsistent to find both wrong. Why is this about being "left"? You should care, as an American.
Because it's pretty much ONLY the Left that is crying about this and how evil the Russians are. By that same token they MUST also consider the US as evil for doing the same things.
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