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Old 06-06-2017, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
Still no physical proof. You lost get over it.
It is all over the news the last 12 - 24 hours. The NSA arrested the lady that leaked the info.

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You got a link? I've never heard of "the intercept" and don't know to believe any of this as it could be like some Alex Jones crap conspiracy website.

Anything legit? That was a month ago, my BS meter is pegging.
it has been on all the major new sites (except maybe Faux) for the last 12 -18 hours or so.

Newsweek

NBC

CNN

Marketwatch


MSNBC

CHICAGO TRIBUNE

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Originally Posted by EddieB.Good View Post
Well someone was just arrested for giving that classified info to The Intercept. Either NSA has a habit of making up fake up reports for their own sh&ts-n-giggles, and the gov't is fake news-ing the charges against this woman, or this was a real event and she's being prosecuted for bringing it to light.
^THIS.
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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You got a link? I've never heard of "the intercept" and don't know to believe any of this as it could be like some Alex Jones crap conspiracy website.

Anything legit? That was a month ago, my BS meter is pegging.

https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05/...2016-election/

The leaker, a veteran and contractor, was sloppy about the leak. It was easy enough to figure out who had downloaded and printed the document. The leaker has been arrested and charged.
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by scarabchuck View Post
So they attempted to hack the election. The fact that it is reported as "attempted" pretty much means it failed or they would be stated it is a fact.


Our country get's cyber attacked 50,000 times a day. Be thankful we have protocols out there to protect us from it.
It's the thought that counts.


They were successful getting into the DNC server although not so much for actually polling machines. Someone needs to explain why we are returning their US compounds in light of their actions.
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:07 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
Still no physical proof. You lost get over it.
At least your consistent in your blatant denialism. There's only so much air in that bubble of yours before it bursts though.
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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The Wall Street Journal has reported on it
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-cha...ing-1496710598

The New York Times has reported on it.
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/201...tion.html?_r=0

The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...b2e_story.html

CBS
NSA report indicates Russian cyberattack against U.S. voting software vendor last August - CBS News

It doesn't state that they were successful...just that they were attempting to....days before our election.
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:12 PM
 
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Originally Posted by HockeyMac18 View Post
Pick one:

1) The details of the leaks are fake.

2) The details of the leaks are real, and those leaking can be arrested for it.


Can't be both.
The story is real - some details may not be completely in place yet, but this young woman, for reasons known only to her, decided to steal the report and pass it along.

Many here are missing the significance of this incident. By doing this, Reality Winner tipped the Russians off as to just what our government knew about their tactics. Had she kept her mouth shut, surveillance and investigation of Russian shenanigans directed towards our electoral system and our government could have continued unimpeded, and more information would have been learned, most likely.

So - one of two likely motivations on Ms. Winner's part: either she naively thought she was being a true American patriot, and this side-effect of her bean-spilling never occurred to her - or this was done to benefit the Russians.

From her Facebook account, Ms. Winner appears to have been a Bernie supporter and something of an activist in various anti-Trump causes. I find it difficult to believe she reached her level of government employment and trust without being thoroughly schooled on security concerns, but evidently, that's what happened - or she was a poor scholar, or else this was done deliberately, for one of the two reasons cited above. My guess is that naivety and immaturity played huge roles in Ms Winner's actions. She's a bright girl - but none too wise in the ways of the international political world, it appears, and she does not to have considered ramifications of her actions beyond the immediate.

What should be done with her now? Ten years' sentence seems harsh, if this was done as stupidly as it appears. But Reality Winner (you just can't make this stuff up) should never, ever work in government at any level again, and her eyes should be opened - somehow - to the implications of what she has done.
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by Jobster View Post
Why are people on this forum so obsessed with politicians to the point to where it almost seems as if they worship them?
Almost?

Some here do worship and appear to hate or pity ( which makes them feel superior) those with different viewpoints.

Boggles my mind, then I remember this is an anomymous online political forum which attracts a percentage of extremists and posers.
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:15 PM
 
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At least your consistent in your blatant denialism. There's only so much air in that bubble of yours before it bursts though.
But no proof has been released.

If anything, it shows that Hillary Clinton lost because of well..... Hillary Clinton.
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by CraigCreek View Post
The story is real - some details may not be completely in place yet, but this young woman, for reasons known only to her, decided to steal the report and pass it along.

Many here are missing the significance of this incident. By doing this, Reality Winner tipped the Russians off as to just what our government knew about their tactics. Had she kept her mouth shut, surveillance and investigation of Russian shenanigans directed towards our electoral system and our government could have continued unimpeded, and more information would have been learned, most likely.

So - one of two likely motivations on Ms. Winner's part: either she naively thought she was being a true American patriot, and this side-effect of her bean-spilling never occurred to her - or this was done to benefit the Russians.

From her Facebook account, Ms. Winner appears to have been a Bernie supporter and something of an activist in various anti-Trump causes. I find it difficult to believe she reached her level of government employment and trust without being thoroughly schooled on security concerns, but evidently, that's what happened - or she was a poor scholar, or else this was done deliberately, for one of the two reasons cited above. My guess is that naivety and immaturity played huge roles in Ms Winner's actions. She's a bright girl - but none too wise in the ways of the international political world, it appears, and she does not to have considered ramifications of her actions beyond the immediate.

What should be done with her now? Ten years' sentence seems harsh, if this was done as stupidly as it appears. But Reality Winner (you just can't make this stuff up) should never, ever work in government at any level again, and her eyes should be opened - somehow - to the implications of what she has done.
Excellent point!
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:16 PM
 
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The Wall Street Journal has reported on it
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-cha...ing-1496710598

The New York Times has reported on it.
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/201...tion.html?_r=0

The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...b2e_story.html

CBS
NSA report indicates Russian cyberattack against U.S. voting software vendor last August - CBS News

It doesn't state that they were successful...just that they were attempting to....days before our election.
Why listen to those idiots? The actual report is online.
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