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Old 06-07-2017, 12:40 PM
 
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This deplorable Reality Winner called Trump an "orange fascist". Of course she herself is the fascist. Why in hell does someone like this get access to classified information in the first place? Hope she gets her 10 years in prison. Hope they get the rest of these leakers like the "Trump gave sensitive information to Russia" leaker. One by one we need to drain the swamp of these deep state operatives, liberal judges, liberal media outlets and of course the liberal politicians that are such a cancer on our country.
Deep state?...did you misspell "derp"??
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:52 PM
 
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What happens when you allow a young radicalized far left SJW access to classified government information. Keep it up and it will keep happening. She was posting something about the "resistance". Might as well give Antifa top secret clearance.
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Old 06-07-2017, 01:06 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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To be honest, this whole thing seemed like a psyop more than anything. The story is already basically dead in MSM.

It didn't really reveal anything, other than, oh look Russia tried to hack us in some way. But still proved nothing that had to do with Trump or collusion.

Also, I think the girl changed her name from Sara Winner to Reality Winner. But this whole thing just seems like...idk...out of place.

Just my humble opinon.
As the media always says, some things are just baked in.


We actually learned for the first time, that the Russians are believed to have tried to hack voting software, which is a far bigger problem than anyone was arguing before.

Before, it was just fake youtube and facebook accounts posting right wing propaganda articles and videos, now there is a question of whether the russians succeeded in hacking voter machine software and if so, did they change votes.

Im not saying they did, im just saying a lot did change, but everyone has already picked a side in this argument.
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Old 06-07-2017, 01:43 PM
 
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Well if she isn't wrong then she shouldn't go to jail, right?
wrong. 10 yrs.
Even if what she released is factual - in that Russians attempted to hack our election, she should go to jail.

There was no reason for her to release that information IMO especially since there is an ongoing investigation and that information would more than likely be looked at when determining the outcome of said investigation.

As a federal contractor or employee, unless there is some sort of imminent danger, I never agree with releasing classified information. Not matter if it is right or wrong it should not have been released.
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Old 06-07-2017, 01:48 PM
 
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This deplorable Reality Winner called Trump an "orange fascist". Of course she herself is the fascist. Why in hell does someone like this get access to classified information in the first place? Hope she gets her 10 years in prison. Hope they get the rest of these leakers like the "Trump gave sensitive information to Russia" leaker. One by one we need to drain the swamp of these deep state operatives, liberal judges, liberal media outlets and of course the liberal politicians that are such a cancer on our country.
Can you explain to the good people of city-data how this woman is a fascist?
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Old 06-07-2017, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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As the media always says, some things are just baked in.


We actually learned for the first time, that the Russians are believed to have tried to hack voting software, which is a far bigger problem than anyone was arguing before.

Before, it was just fake youtube and facebook accounts posting right wing propaganda articles and videos, now there is a question of whether the russians succeeded in hacking voter machine software and if so, did they change votes.

Im not saying they did, im just saying a lot did change, but everyone has already picked a side in this argument.
Well, it was never doubted. But again, it didn't really state who in Russia. It could've maybe been the Russian government, or it could've been some random 17 year old kid in a basement in Russia. It doesn't really prove anything at all. That, and it's already know from the Vault 7 dump that the CIA could mask any country they want as hackers.

Which is why I ask, why would she be that desperate to leak that information, of all things?

And it's still doubtful because lots of people just didn't like Hillary and either didn't vote, or were Bernie people and voted for Trump instead.

This whole thing is just strange and I don't know why 7 months later, it's still a thing. But Hillary clearly thinks everything BUT her is why she lost, when it was ONLY her as to why she lost.
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:04 PM
 
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Which is why I ask, why would she be that desperate to leak that information, of all things?
Here's my take on it having a 25 y/o old daughter who does yoga, is a Bernie supporter, and hates Trump (she also has a clearance!!)...she's immature and misguided. A lot of these young kids got very into politics in this last election and, being young, see things VERY black and white. They are also overly emotional and dramatic. Not all of them, mind you, but I see this in many of them. Extremely idealistic. And most of the dislike Trump immensely. The chaos of this administration has not helped anything one iota.

This girl, in the course of her job, sees this information, and probably much more. In her mind, she is watching the media, getting outrage and what she sees as a coverup of sorts about the election. Probably feels members in Congress aren't taking it seriously and she decides to the show the world. That's all I think it is. But very, very, very stupid. She has ruined her life and, IMO, the information was not even worth it. I think we all KNEW it to be true anyway. In fact, I'm not even sure why the information was still Top Secret at this point.
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:10 PM
 
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Here's my take on it having a 25 y/o old daughter who does yoga, is a Bernie supporter, and hates Trump (she also has a clearance!!)...she's immature and misguided. A lot of these young kids got very into politics in this last election and, being young, see things VERY black and white. They are also overly emotional and dramatic. Not all of them, mind you, but I see this in many of them. Extremely idealistic. And most of the dislike Trump immensely. The chaos of this administration has not helped anything one iota.

This girl, in the course of her job, sees this information, and probably much more. In her mind, she is watching the media, getting outrage and what she sees as a coverup of sorts about the election. Probably feels members in Congress aren't taking it seriously and she decides to the show the world. That's all I think it is. But very, very, very stupid. She has ruined her life and, IMO, the information was not even worth it. I think we all KNEW it to be true anyway. In fact, I'm not even sure why the information was still Top Secret at this point.
I think you have apparently missed the massive numbers of conservatives denying that this is true here. For months. Over and over.
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:10 PM
 
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..... In fact, I'm not even sure why the information was still Top Secret at this point.
Very easy answer to that. Once released, it immediately told the hackers the US Government had detected them.

Any attempts to counter it, gain more intel about it, or to actually catch who was doing it, was completely destroyed.

It also exposed our methods of detection. All and all huge harm to our country because this little "snowflake" couldn't handle the responsibilities of real life.
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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Here's my take on it having a 25 y/o old daughter who does yoga, is a Bernie supporter, and hates Trump (she also has a clearance!!)...she's immature and misguided. A lot of these young kids got very into politics in this last election and, being young, see things VERY black and white. They are also overly emotional and dramatic. Not all of them, mind you, but I see this in many of them. Extremely idealistic. And most of the dislike Trump immensely. The chaos of this administration has not helped anything one iota.

This girl, in the course of her job, sees this information, and probably much more. In her mind, she is watching the media, getting outrage and what she sees as a coverup of sorts about the election. Probably feels members in Congress aren't taking it seriously and she decides to the show the world. That's all I think it is. But very, very, very stupid. She has ruined her life and, IMO, the information was not even worth it. I think we all KNEW it to be true anyway. In fact, I'm not even sure why the information was still Top Secret at this point.
This is what is getting scary about the media overhyping every single thing and the harmful rhetoric by, I hate to say it, the left. Her twitter feed was just all these anti-Trump talking points and anti-white talking points. Stuff that sites like Buzzfeed and .mic are pushing out to people my age.

It's nice to have political viewpoints, but...it's like WHAT IF there WAS damaging and potentially dangeous security information leaked in those documents?

And now you have morons like Michael Moore encouraging govt employees to leak information to Trumpileaks. This is just getting out of hand.

I don't care if you're a Trump supporter or not, but this is getting into some scary territory.
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