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Old 06-07-2017, 12:43 AM
 
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It was at 22%, it has apparently dropped to 11%, while that is a big drop, its not enough to justify dumping those people off the program.

Here is a legitimate case for having food stamps(chronic unemployment), and yet people are still kicked of the program.


Lets remember that 11% is U3, U6 is probably around 19 or 20 right now.

And the counties listed are all a cluster, that means you cant just move to the next town to find work.
22% to 11% is pretty astonishing in a short period of time. I'd like to know more details about the updated 11% figure so that programs can be calibrated/refined in a meaningful way. U6 is probably what you suspect, though that's a separate (albeit somewhat related) consideration to be refined as well. The problem in this case seems to be one of opposing sides seeing only black and white solutions despite the data (as well as common sense) showing such perspectives are intellectually untenable.

 
Old 06-07-2017, 01:21 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I found this fact interesting :

Statewide, the number of able-bodied adults receiving food stamps has fallen by almost 35,000 people since Jan. 1, 2016. Each recipient receives about $126 a month in benefits.
13 Alabama counties saw 85 percent drop in food stamp participation after work requirements restarted | AL.com

$126 a month can barely feed your dogs.

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Old 06-07-2017, 03:45 AM
 
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Is the state going to help the people find work, or just let them starve? When unemployment here was over 10% people with college degrees, or ten -fifteen years in the workforce couldn't get a job at a restaurant or cleaning hotel rooms.
 
Old 06-07-2017, 03:58 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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While abuse is clearly rampant in all social programs as mentioned if there are no jobs what exactly are these people supposed to do? Oh yeah, check the crime stats.
 
Old 06-07-2017, 05:48 AM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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While abuse is clearly rampant in all social programs as mentioned if there are no jobs what exactly are these people supposed to do? Oh yeah, check the crime stats.
Or they can move to an area of the country where there are more work opportunities. There is nothing preventing them from leaving their 11% unemployment city or town in search of better opportunities. Everyone else does it all of the time... including those illegals from south of our borders.

If the employment conditions are so awful in AL, why do they still stay their all of their lives and not make a real effort to better themselves with education? Public libraries are free. Instead they passively collect welfare and food stamps, get obese from fried foods and soda, and make babies. And all of those life choices only keeping them down.

And I bet that they all buy lottery tickets. A complete waste of the little money they have.
 
Old 06-07-2017, 06:14 AM
 
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Thirteen previously exempted Alabama counties saw an 85 percent drop in food stamp participation after work requirements were put in place on Jan. 1, according to the Alabama Department of Human Resources.
The counties – Greene, Hale, Perry, Dallas, Lowndes, Wilcox, Monroe, Conecuh, Clarke, Washington, Choctaw, Sumter and Barbour – had been exempt from a change that limited able-bodied adults without dependents to three months of Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits within a three-year time frame unless they were working or participating in an approved training program.




13 Alabama counties saw 85 percent drop in food stamp participation after work requirements restarted | AL.com


https://www.infowars.com/13-alabama-...nts-restarted/
And?

Do you have comment? Or just post and run?
 
Old 06-07-2017, 06:16 AM
 
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Or they can move to an area of the country where there are more work opportunities. There is nothing preventing them from leaving their 11% unemployment city or town in search of better opportunities. Everyone else does it all of the time... including those illegals from south of our borders.

If the employment conditions are so awful in AL, why do they still stay their all of their lives and not make a real effort to better themselves with education? Public libraries are free. Instead they passively collect welfare and food stamps, get obese from fried foods and soda, and make babies. And all of those life choices only keeping them down.

And I bet that they all buy lottery tickets. A complete waste of the little money they have.
How do you move when you have no money? Deposits? Moving truck? Turn on the lights?
 
Old 06-07-2017, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Thirteen previously exempted Alabama counties saw an 85 percent drop in food stamp participation after work requirements were put in place on Jan. 1, according to the Alabama Department of Human Resources.
The counties – Greene, Hale, Perry, Dallas, Lowndes, Wilcox, Monroe, Conecuh, Clarke, Washington, Choctaw, Sumter and Barbour – had been exempt from a change that limited able-bodied adults without dependents to three months of Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits within a three-year time frame unless they were working or participating in an approved training program.
Why did they cancel the requirement in the first place?
 
Old 06-07-2017, 06:21 AM
 
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How do you move when you have no money? Deposits? Moving truck? Turn on the lights?
Exactly. Not to mention uprooting children, finding new schools, finding childcare, leaving behind any support network of family and friends.............it's very easy to say "just move" but it's not a simple (or cheap) process.
 
Old 06-07-2017, 06:21 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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The article has nothing to do with abuse. THe people who were on this list where there because according to the AL.Com link, the counties had unemployment rates as high as 22%.


THats not abuse, that is a horrible economy in that area, and now you are saying those people should starve .
Well, that is what the Republicans they keep voting for say. Elections have consequences and all that.

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And Alabama went Republican....so time for lazy, mooching conservatives to get a job
Yep! Go Trump!
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