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Old 07-02-2017, 12:30 PM
 
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FGM is not a part of the Qu'ran or the Islamic faith.

Bulk is a majority...
That's odd, considering the 1/2 billion Muslims that practice FGM will tell you its part of their religian
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Old 07-02-2017, 01:15 PM
 
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The women I am talking about are educated. If they want to cover their heads or wear skirts only that is for them to decide, not me or you.
I am not talking about simply a scientific education. I am talking about educating people about power structures and how people are dominated and manipulated. Its also a bit of a cop-out to just assume that they are not under any pressure. Who created the religion and the regulations of that religion? Was it women? Or was it men? And why?
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Old 07-03-2017, 05:28 AM
 
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I am not talking about simply a scientific education. I am talking about educating people about power structures and how people are dominated and manipulated. Its also a bit of a cop-out to just assume that they are not under any pressure. Who created the religion and the regulations of that religion? Was it women? Or was it men? And why?
:sigh: I know what you meant by educated. My answer to you stands. Perhaps you should seek out women who decide to dress in a more conservative manner and discuss the issue with them. I also find it interesting that you don't take the same issue with women who choose to dress provocatively. That presents its own set of psychological and educational minefields as well.
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Old 07-03-2017, 08:17 AM
 
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I feel this is in the eye of the wearer. If a woman chooses to cover her head, then that is feminist. If she does not choose to do so, and is instead forced into it, that is not feminist.
A woman being free to choose her own path is feminist. The burka isn't feminist. And no feminist would say it is feminist. Choice is feminist. And every feminist would say a woman making a choice is feminism.
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Old 07-03-2017, 05:00 PM
 
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I am not talking about simply a scientific education. I am talking about educating people about power structures and how people are dominated and manipulated. Its also a bit of a cop-out to just assume that they are not under any pressure. Who created the religion and the regulations of that religion? Was it women? Or was it men? And why?
I'm with you on this one. I understand what some are saying and I will defend any woman's right to cover her head and generally dress as she pleases but I don't agree that wearing a burka can ever be feminist. The burka is a glaring symbol of the different rules and treatment for men and women under Islam.
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Old 07-03-2017, 05:45 PM
 
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Muslims and Islam basically "trump" the vagina card/women in terms of the pecking order of the Left, that is why women and feminists are silent on Islam's second-class citizen "chattel property" treatment of women. For liberals it is "taboo" to criticize Islam. It's politically incorrect to talk about Islam, if that makes sense, that is why even liberal CNN avoids the topic altogether.

It's really as simple as that.
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Old 07-03-2017, 11:17 PM
 
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Women/Feminists are huge supporters/defenders of Islam. But why? If anything they should be fervently against it at all levels. Yet instead they love to go after cisgendered straight western men and talk about all the "evils" they do. Yet for women whatever "evils" they complain the aforementioned do would be a million times worse under Islamic control. I really doubt these women would enjoy being a part of a harem or brutally gang-raped multiple times by men that couldn't care less how they feel about it and a governing body that fully supports it. Yet that is exactly what they are asking for by accepting Islam in any way shape or form.

As a mother with a daughter I vehemently despise everything Islam is, I despise the pedophilic man that created it, those that followed him, and those that follow it, promote it and defend it. I really think any woman that does defend it should be forced to spend a few months living in Saudi Arabia and see just what it would be like if a European Islamic Caliphate were to ever come to pass. In America we get made fun of for having gun-toting rednecks but seeing what is happening in Europe makes me glad we have them.
I am very surprised when I know that there are educated women who know the Arabic language and the rules of Arabic
They read this text
))))If you are on the feces or the women are touched)))))))))
And do not reject all Islam
Those who want to search for these words must translate them as they are and without any falsification or encapsulation of the words of the original text
I invite all European women to search for this text and you will know what the position of the woman in Islam is
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Old 07-09-2017, 06:30 AM
 
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A woman being free to choose her own path is feminist. The burka isn't feminist. And no feminist would say it is feminist. Choice is feminist. And every feminist would say a woman making a choice is feminism.
I'm a feminist and CHOOSING to wear a head covering is a FEMINIST choice.
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Old 08-01-2017, 01:18 AM
 
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The genocidal aspects of socialism and its reduction on family size are countered by the Islamic tradition, where the woman doesn't work outside the home.

Prior to socialism, people relied on their offspring for security in old age. But once people were misled to assume that government would take care of them (by taxing other people's children), women could forego motherhood, and become a career woman. Of course, depopulation has a negative effect as shown by the "Graying of Europe" - where the booming pensioner population is supported by a dwindling tax base.
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Old 08-01-2017, 01:31 AM
 
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I'm a feminist and CHOOSING to wear a head covering is a FEMINIST choice.
Just like choosing to subject your daughter to genital mutilation. Just a choice
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